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« on: November 30, 2017, 02:17:12 PM »

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-global-co2-emissions-set-to-rise-2-percent-in-2017-following-three-year-plateau
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 03:00:01 PM »

Good overview of world trends. Coal is still very much alive internationally, collapse of US coal companies doesn't mean the demon is slain yet.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 03:03:05 PM »

The Paris Agreement is truly helping so much.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 03:09:12 PM »

The Paris Agreement is truly helping so much.

It will when actors who are affected by climate change sue public and private actors in front of international courts, and can use the Paris Agreement as a legal argument.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 03:19:00 PM »

Not a surprise ...

They will continue to remain high or increase, because even if Europe and the US are reducing them, countries like India and in some decades ... Africa ... will fully fire up their coal ovens.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 03:59:46 PM »

Not worried about Africa (aside from South Africa) in that respect - it's more likely they'll skip over the coal stage entirely. The big Asian countries: India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Pakistan, Indonesia, Japan, Taiwan,  Turkey, Thailand and ROK are more of a danger IMO. In this regards, medium development countries in the hardest place, given the old countries have legacy plants that can be retired from inaction, and virgin markets will avoid thermal plants entirely; leading to the aforementioned

In fact, I feel the real problem will come not from power grids (I think we basically have the technology, if not the political drive to phase out largely all coal and natural gas in the next few decades) but heating, certain parts of transport like shipping and flight, industry and, most of all, land use; none of which are focused enough on. If you wanted to focus on heating, you need to start now for a future where no natural gas is used at all, and no country is bothering with that yet.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 02:10:19 PM »

Well, I guess RIP humans. (300 000 BC-some time in the 22nd or 23rd century). I guess it was a good run Sad
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 02:28:51 AM »

The Paris agreement was much weaker than the Kyoto agreement 24 years before it. Pathetic.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 12:52:54 PM »

and while it is fun to blame the developing world Australia has really spectacularly screwed up in recent years:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/11/australias-transport-emissions-in-past-year-the-highest-on-record

(I'm sure the sudden reversal of the decline in emissions matching up entirely with the Coalition gaining power is entirely serendipitous)
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2017, 10:52:33 PM »

The Paris Agreement is truly helping so much.

dude it entered into force barely a year aqo, nations have barely had time to implement the very first steps of their lonq term plans, and some parts of the treaty don't even come into effect until 2020.

I'm not tellinq you what to do but you probably shouldn't criticize somethinq you know nothinq about, it makes you look very foolish.

The Paris agreement was much weaker than the Kyoto agreement 24 years before it. Pathetic.

Yes the Paris Aqreement is nowhere near enouqh to do what's needed to stop/reverse anthropoqenic climate chanqe but realistically there's very few (if any) countries willinq to take the drastic measures that would be required to reduce the decades of damaqe humanity has already done to the environment.

It's probably the best possible treaty that could still qet every nation in the world to siqn on (and under the terms of the treaty, Trump's "withdrawal" won't even qo into effect until 2020 so there's a realistic chance his decision could be reversed before it actually comes into effect). It has the entire world workinq toqether and it will at least slow down the pace of qlobal warminq and that's better than nothinq. It's a start - and hopefully since every nation in the world is on board, we can hopefully transition transition to somethinq more effective before too lonq while keepinq the unanimity intact.
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