HB 1177: Open Ports Act (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

In the absence of sponsor feedback for one reason or another, the best approach is to just put it too a vote. In the old days when amendment votes lasted five days, it was worth going to any length to avoid them.

     My preference has been, in lieu of a sponsor, to give all Representatives the right to object, and if nobody objects then it passes. A much more convenient practice than having a sponsor at all, but it is not one that is well-supported within statute.

The rules are actually in that sense designed to produce confrontation and debate in that sense. The rules tend to treat the current text as the prerogative of the sponsor and place a degree of burden on those seeking to change it.

If we didn't have sponsors, chances are there would be even less debate as there is less investment in challenging or opposing amendments.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Alright, I will put Amendment H10:06 up to a vote. Representatives have 72 hours to vote aye, nay, or abstain.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

This amendment doesn't change anything that isn't already permissible regarding current exemptions in emergency situations. I believe that while the domestic shipping industry should be protected, we should offer permanent exemptions to the Jones Act for Alaska, Hawaii, and the territories while reforming it in the contiguous states.
NAY

[RFayette]

AYE

[wxtransit]

Aye.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Nay

[RC (a la Frémont)]

Nay.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This vote only has 15 hours left.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     With 3 votes in favor, 4 against, and 2 abstaining, Amendment H10:06 has failed.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If there are no more comments or amendments, we can proceed to a final vote in 24 hours.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I object to a final vote.

There is expected to be another amendment along the lines that LT discussed.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     As LT is no longer a Representative, who plans to propose this amendment and on what timetable?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     As LT is no longer a Representative, who plans to propose this amendment and on what timetable?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     As LT is no longer a Representative, who plans to propose this amendment and on what timetable?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is what happens when Atlas cannot hold up the globe anymore.

[Leinad]

After analyzing the issue (due to being asked to make the amendment ) I don't see a point to not repeal it overall as discussed in the bill.

Therefore I motion for a final vote.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Representatives have 24 hours to object to the motion for a final vote.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     With no representatives objecting to Representative Leinad's motion for a final vote, I am opening a final vote on this bill. Representatives have 72 hours to vote aye, nay, or abstain.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Nay

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I would like to have more than one vote on this bill.

[wxtransit]

I thought I already voted on this bill, and realized I just voted on the amendment.

Nay.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

If this fails, I will be reintroducing the bill or similar legislation via the public submissions thread.  Clearly this did not receive proper consideration or debate in our lower chamber.

[The Govanah Jake]

Based on what I've heard, I'll be inclined to vote:

NAY.