NV-4: Rep. Ruben Kihuen accused of sexual harassment, announces retirement
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« on: December 01, 2017, 04:59:28 PM »
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/she-says-she-quit-her-campaign-job-after-he-harassed-her?utm_term=.yc11b91deR#.wo1PKMP3dn
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 05:00:58 PM »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 05:05:42 PM »

I guess that's why Reid picked Rosen?
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 05:06:04 PM »

I guess that's why Reid picked Rosen?
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 05:07:32 PM »

Who would run for his seat?
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 05:09:04 PM »

No Representative from this district has ever been re-elected.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2017, 05:12:42 PM »

No Representative from this district has ever been re-elected.
kill me.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2017, 05:18:51 PM »

Lucy Flores please
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 05:22:43 PM »

Come on lol I mean hand on thigh is bad but asking a woman out on a date when it is 'unwanted' is harassment now? Seriously?

Like how the hell is he supposed to know it is unwanted.

Anyway I don't think he should resign unless there was serious unwanted physical contact (kind of hard to parse from this report but it sounds like not).

And no, this is not the least serious allegation. That would be the disgusting victim-blaming from both sides that caused Barton to resign. But this is nearly there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 05:25:36 PM »

Come on lol I mean hand on thigh is bad but asking a woman out on a date when it is 'unwanted' is harassment now? Seriously?

It is if Kihuen's behavior was a repeat offense. In cases like these, the victim has almost always pleaded with their harasser to stop.

If it's just this, he should retire and let the Democrats try again, potentially with Lucy Flores. But if more skeletons come tumbling out of Kihuen's closet, it'll be time for his party to chase him out.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 05:27:03 PM »

I guess that's why Reid picked Rosen?

If it wasn't Rosen it would've been Titus.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 05:29:45 PM »

Come on lol I mean hand on thigh is bad but asking a woman out on a date when it is 'unwanted' is harassment now? Seriously?

It is if Kihuen's behavior was a repeat offense. In cases like these, the victim has almost always pleaded with their harasser to stop.
She said he asked her out on dates twice.

I mean come on, even if she said 'no and I'm never going out with you' I wouldn't call one additional request for a date harassment. He didn't stalk her, he didn't repeatedly undermine or belittle her, he didn't fire her or threaten her job.

You're presuming there's something here when there's no evidence of anything. Yes obviously if he did something beyond what's reported here that is harassment then he harasse her, but the facts of the case as stated are just clearly and obviously not.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 05:32:32 PM »

Come on lol I mean hand on thigh is bad but asking a woman out on a date when it is 'unwanted' is harassment now? Seriously?

It is if Kihuen's behavior was a repeat offense. In cases like these, the victim has almost always pleaded with their harasser to stop.

She said he asked her out on dates twice.

I mean come on, even if she said 'no and I'm never going out with you' I wouldn't call one additional request for a date harassment. He didn't stalk her, he didn't repeatedly undermine or belittle her, he didn't fire her or threaten her job.

You're presuming there's something here when there's no evidence of anything. Yes obviously if he did something beyond what's reported here that is harassment then he harasse her, but the facts of the case as stated are just clearly and obviously not.

I think you may be getting the "twice" figure from the bolded part here, which I actually missed until just now and which makes this worse:

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 05:33:19 PM »

Resign!
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 05:43:54 PM »

This is getting ridiculous the bar is so low these days for 'sexual harassment', next we will be calling on folks to resign over complimenting a chicks dress.
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2017, 06:06:57 PM »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.

Any sexual harassment by a public official is resignation worthy.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 06:23:33 PM »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.

Any sexual harassment by a public official is resignation worthy.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 06:24:44 PM »

Jesus the hot takes in this thread. It's like yall have never been to a bar or something

Asking an employee out repeatedly, getting rejected, and still proceeding to touch her without her consent absolutely constitutes sexual harassment and is, indeed, resignation-worthy.
Yes, this is textbook sexual harassment, especially considering that he was her boss.
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 07:16:25 PM »
« Edited: December 01, 2017, 07:18:09 PM by We Have A Pope »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.

Any sexual harassment by a public official is resignation worthy.

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Or we could try not pissing away what should be a safe house seat.  Flores is like the one person capable of blowing this race.
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 07:20:00 PM »

No sexual harassment reported in the 2015 session.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 07:25:45 PM »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.

Any sexual harassment by a public official is resignation worthy.

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2017, 07:27:57 PM »

Hoyer said Kihuen denied it but if proven he should resign. Also Dem leadership knew this report was coming.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2017, 07:28:55 PM »

Seems like Kihuen did a very bad thing. He should resign as he is a liability at this point. And this should obviously be investigated.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2017, 07:32:34 PM »

These are probably the least severe at of all the sexual harassment claims we've seen. Asked her if she had a boyfriend? Put his hand on her thigh? Bad, creepy, but really not resignation worthy.

Any sexual harassment by a public official is resignation worthy.

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Or we could try not pissing away what should be a safe house seat.  Flores is like the one person capable of blowing this race.
I would quibble with this but unfortunately she's moved to California based off her twitter feed, so the point is moot. Sad
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2017, 08:15:22 PM »

Flores claims Kihuen had a grabby reputation in the Lege.
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