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« on: May 01, 2004, 01:05:36 am »

Come to think of this, it's hilarious.

<<Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens APM; the most accurate
measure of innate intelligence in my opinion:

                              AVG IQ      AVG Income       '00 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113      $26,979          Gore
(2) Massachusetts................111      $24,059          Gore
(3) New Jersey...................111      $26,457          Gore
(4) New York.....................109      $23,534          Gore
(5) Rhode Island.................107      $20,299          Gore
(6) Hawaii.......................106      $21,218          Gore
(7) Maryland.....................105      $22,974          Gore
(Cool New Hampshire................105      $22,934          Bush
(9) Illinois.....................104      $21,608          Gore
(10) Delaware....................103      $21,451          Gore
(11) Minnesota...................102      $20,049          Gore
(12) Vermont.....................102      $18,834          Gore
(13) Washington..................102      $20,398          Gore
(14) California..................101      $21,278          Gore
(15) Pennsylvania................101      $20,253          Gore
(16) Maine.......................100      $18,226          Gore
(17) Virginia....................100      $20,629          Bush
(18) Wisconsin...................100      $18,727          Gore
(19) Colorado.....................99      $20,124          Bush
(20) Iowa.........................99      $18,287          Gore
(21) Michigan.....................99      $19,508          Gore
(22) Nevada.......................99      $20,266          Bush
(23) Ohio.........................99      $18,624          Bush
(24) Oregon.......................99      $18,202          Gore
(25) Alaska.......................98      $21,603          Bush
(26) Florida......................98      $19,397          Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98      $18,835          Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96      $19,376          Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95      $19,084          Bush
(30) Arizona......................94      $17,119          Bush
(31) Indiana......................94      $18,043          Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94      $17,341          Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93      $17,667          Bush
(34) West Virginia................93      $15,065          Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92      $15,439          Bush
(36) Georgia......................92      $18,130          Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92      $16,534          Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92      $15,353          Gore
(39) North Dakota.................92      $16,854          Bush
(40) Texas........................92      $17,892          Bush
(41) Alabama......................90      $16,220          Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90      $15,712          Bush
(43) Montana......................90      $16,062          Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90      $16,198          Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90      $16,558          Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89      $15,989          Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89      $17,423          Bush
(48) Idaho........................87      $16,067          Bush
(49) Utah.........................87      $15,325          Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85      $14,088          Bush
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2004, 01:15:41 am »

Meaningless numbers.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2004, 02:08:08 am »

I think we all know how little correlation there is between intelligence and income.  Perhaps the intelligence test is actually a class test.  I always do shockingly well on those things and yet am incapable of making a dime.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2004, 02:12:23 am »

Money and me are like taking the North ends of two magnets and putting them near each other, lol.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2004, 07:31:21 am »

Come to think of this, it's hilarious.

<<Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens APM; the most accurate
measure of innate intelligence in my opinion:

                              AVG IQ      AVG Income       '00 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113      $26,979          Gore
(2) Massachusetts................111      $24,059          Gore
(3) New Jersey...................111      $26,457          Gore
(4) New York.....................109      $23,534          Gore
(5) Rhode Island.................107      $20,299          Gore
(6) Hawaii.......................106      $21,218          Gore
(7) Maryland.....................105      $22,974          Gore
(Cool New Hampshire................105      $22,934          Bush
(9) Illinois.....................104      $21,608          Gore
(10) Delaware....................103      $21,451          Gore
(11) Minnesota...................102      $20,049          Gore
(12) Vermont.....................102      $18,834          Gore
(13) Washington..................102      $20,398          Gore
(14) California..................101      $21,278          Gore
(15) Pennsylvania................101      $20,253          Gore
(16) Maine.......................100      $18,226          Gore
(17) Virginia....................100      $20,629          Bush
(18) Wisconsin...................100      $18,727          Gore
(19) Colorado.....................99      $20,124          Bush
(20) Iowa.........................99      $18,287          Gore
(21) Michigan.....................99      $19,508          Gore
(22) Nevada.......................99      $20,266          Bush
(23) Ohio.........................99      $18,624          Bush
(24) Oregon.......................99      $18,202          Gore
(25) Alaska.......................98      $21,603          Bush
(26) Florida......................98      $19,397          Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98      $18,835          Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96      $19,376          Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95      $19,084          Bush
(30) Arizona......................94      $17,119          Bush
(31) Indiana......................94      $18,043          Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94      $17,341          Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93      $17,667          Bush
(34) West Virginia................93      $15,065          Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92      $15,439          Bush
(36) Georgia......................92      $18,130          Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92      $16,534          Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92      $15,353          Gore
(39) North Dakota.................92      $16,854          Bush
(40) Texas........................92      $17,892          Bush
(41) Alabama......................90      $16,220          Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90      $15,712          Bush
(43) Montana......................90      $16,062          Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90      $16,198          Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90      $16,558          Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89      $15,989          Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89      $17,423          Bush
(48) Idaho........................87      $16,067          Bush
(49) Utah.........................87      $15,325          Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85      $14,088          Bush
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How do you know  that they didn't make that up?

I like where UTah is on the list though Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2004, 08:55:18 am »

Makes sense.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2004, 09:45:13 am »

So, people with lower IQ tend to vote for Bush? If this was truth, I would now understand how they would support a president that is not so up to par with his speaking ability.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2004, 09:58:38 am »

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I LIVE IN THE STUPIDEST STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, oh wait that's bad.  Darn.  Last again.
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2004, 09:59:30 am »

(4) New York Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2004, 10:21:11 am »

an 85 average IQ is pretty bad.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2004, 11:04:51 am »

Some things to remember:

1) IQ is not a reliable measure of intelligence. It is, however, an excellent measure of education.
2) The Poorest and least educated counties tend to be Democrat. State level is too wide.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2004, 12:21:43 pm »

Some things to remember:

1) IQ is not a reliable measure of intelligence. It is, however, an excellent measure of education.
2) The Poorest and least educated counties tend to be Democrat. State level is too wide.

Thats true. The most educated & least educated tend to be Democrat. The middle tends to be Republican.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2004, 12:28:10 pm »

Some things to remember:

1) IQ is not a reliable measure of intelligence. It is, however, an excellent measure of education.
2) The Poorest and least educated counties tend to be Democrat. State level is too wide.

Thats true. The most educated & least educated tend to be Democrat. The middle tends to be Republican.

True. If ya think about it, Dem strongholds are either deprived inner cities, poor rural areas (this is especially true of the Deep South) or college-ish.
GOP strongholds tend to be more affluent rural areas and exurbia...
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2004, 01:10:55 pm »

(11) Minnesota...................102      $20,049          Gore

Grin *loves MN's education system*
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2004, 02:25:31 pm »

Come to think of this, it's hilarious.

<<Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens APM; the most accurate
measure of innate intelligence in my opinion:

                              AVG IQ      AVG Income       '00 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113      $26,979          Gore
(2) Massachusetts................111      $24,059          Gore
(3) New Jersey...................111      $26,457          Gore
(4) New York.....................109      $23,534          Gore
(5) Rhode Island.................107      $20,299          Gore
(6) Hawaii.......................106      $21,218          Gore
(7) Maryland.....................105      $22,974          Gore
(Cool New Hampshire................105      $22,934          Bush
(9) Illinois.....................104      $21,608          Gore
(10) Delaware....................103      $21,451          Gore
(11) Minnesota...................102      $20,049          Gore
(12) Vermont.....................102      $18,834          Gore
(13) Washington..................102      $20,398          Gore
(14) California..................101      $21,278          Gore
(15) Pennsylvania................101      $20,253          Gore
(16) Maine.......................100      $18,226          Gore
(17) Virginia....................100      $20,629          Bush
(18) Wisconsin...................100      $18,727          Gore
(19) Colorado.....................99      $20,124          Bush
(20) Iowa.........................99      $18,287          Gore
(21) Michigan.....................99      $19,508          Gore
(22) Nevada.......................99      $20,266          Bush
(23) Ohio.........................99      $18,624          Bush
(24) Oregon.......................99      $18,202          Gore
(25) Alaska.......................98      $21,603          Bush
(26) Florida......................98      $19,397          Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98      $18,835          Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96      $19,376          Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95      $19,084          Bush
(30) Arizona......................94      $17,119          Bush
(31) Indiana......................94      $18,043          Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94      $17,341          Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93      $17,667          Bush
(34) West Virginia................93      $15,065          Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92      $15,439          Bush
(36) Georgia......................92      $18,130          Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92      $16,534          Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92      $15,353          Gore
(39) North Dakota.................92      $16,854          Bush
(40) Texas........................92      $17,892          Bush
(41) Alabama......................90      $16,220          Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90      $15,712          Bush
(43) Montana......................90      $16,062          Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90      $16,198          Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90      $16,558          Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89      $15,989          Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89      $17,423          Bush
(48) Idaho........................87      $16,067          Bush
(49) Utah.........................87      $15,325          Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85      $14,088          Bush
>>

This is interesting, and expected, and I doubt it was made up.

This is similar to a thread I started a while back listing different states and their proportion of advanced degrees. I made a map of states with red = higher than average advanced degrees (percentage) and blue = lower than average. The map predicted the state's presidential winner 39 out of 50.

It's cool that the two most socially conservative states (Utah and Miss.) are at the bottom. Wink
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2004, 02:37:37 pm »

Some things to remember:

1) IQ is not a reliable measure of intelligence. It is, however, an excellent measure of education.
2) The Poorest and least educated counties tend to be Democrat. State level is too wide.

A lot of the poorest and/or least-educated counties/congressional districts are majority-minority and therefore strongly Democratic. But once race is controlled for, better-educated voters are more Democratic.

When I get a chance, I'll make a table of the 10 least educated congressional districts--my guess is that most of these went to Bush.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2004, 02:39:40 pm »

So, people with lower IQ tend to vote for Bush? If this was truth, I would now understand how they would support a president that is not so up to par with his speaking ability.

Although Bush went to Yale and Harvard, he doesn't come across as well-educated--I can certainly understand how less-educated whites can relate to him.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2004, 03:09:08 pm »

LOL, this is a classic!

I wonder how one figures out the average IQ of a state? Give or take a few numbers, the higher Gore's margin of victory the smarter the state? Must be! And vice versa for Bush, so the larger his margin of victory the dumber the state, give or take a few. It can't be that overwhelmigly obvious. Enjoyed this one.
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2004, 03:26:35 pm »

Just another pathetic attempt by those on the left to smash the right. I'm sure all 15 million of Floridas residents took a IQ test and they got an average that way. This is mostly hogwash.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2004, 03:37:02 pm »

Some things to remember:

1) IQ is not a reliable measure of intelligence. It is, however, an excellent measure of education.
2) The Poorest and least educated counties tend to be Democrat. State level is too wide.

A lot of the poorest and/or least-educated counties/congressional districts are majority-minority and therefore strongly Democratic. But once race is controlled for, better-educated voters are more Democratic.

When I get a chance, I'll make a table of the 10 least educated congressional districts--my guess is that most of these went to Bush.

They are often M-M *in theory*... in practice they often aren't... luckily for the Dems the dog-poor Yella' Dawg's who make up the bulk of the white population in those districts also vote Democrat...

Education has less to do with voting patterns than educated people sometimes like to think...
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2004, 03:57:29 pm »

http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/

How intelligent are members of Atlas Forum?
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2004, 04:40:58 pm »

(4) New York Grin

(3) New Jersey!

Yea!  we beat you guys in something! : D
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2004, 04:41:55 pm »

(4) New York Grin

(3) New Jersey!

Yea!  we beat you guys in something! : D

Well, ya beat them in amount of toxic waste sites!
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2004, 04:48:39 pm »

(4) New York Grin

(3) New Jersey!

Yea!  we beat you guys in something! : D

Well, ya beat them in amount of toxic waste sites!

Always have to ruin the Jeresy guy's moment....

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2004, 05:34:54 pm »

Just another pathetic attempt by those on the left to smash the right. I'm sure all 15 million of Floridas residents took a IQ test and they got an average that way. This is mostly hogwash.

Technically they don't have to.  That's why I can take a poll of 2,000 Floridians and get a rough outlook of the state's opinion.

This does not mean only stupid people vote for Gore.   It seems to have much more with income and education that actual intelligence.
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