Alabama Megathread 3: Results Thread

[Pericles]

Arkansas Yankee keeps bringing up Ted Kennedy but the last post of the previous megathread is him saying he would just watch as someone strangles Gloria Allred.

So...

I do not know whether to take you seriously or not.

I know to not take you seriously.

[Pericles]

Just saying 'what about Ted Kennedy' or 'what about Bill Clinton' is NOT a justification to vote for Roy Moore. If the Democrats are such sleazebags, surely Republicans should seize the moral highground and be better than them by not voting for Roy Moore. The only way you will get better politics is of people finally take a stand and refuse to endorse this kind of behavior. Allowing and supporting Moore because 'what about(insert boogeyman Democrat here)' won't improve anything and will lead to America having worse Democratic and Republican officeholders in the long-run. The choice is clear, between tolerating and not tolerating Moore's behavior, and people need to stand up and not tolerate it.

[Pericles]

Will Fox News release a final poll in the next few days? Their polls are more Jones-friendly.

[Pericles]

Again, Democrats being flawed isn't a justification for Moore. If you're really opposed to sexual misconduct, take the moral high ground and just DON'T SUPPORT MOORE.

[Pericles]

On polling, I sometimes think of this one thing Nate Silver said.

First Rule of Polling Errors: Polls almost always miss in the opposite direction of what pundits expect.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-the-u-k-polls-skewed/

There's a lot more uncertainty in races like these, and perhaps the conventional wisdom being in favor of Moore winning means that the polling error is going to break in favor of Jones. Or maybe this is all dumb. We'll see.

That's my personal opinion. My gut feeling is Jones is being underrated.

[Pericles]

Moore is unrepentant for his sins. While he can't legally be punished it reflects on his character. What kind of person molests children, even 40 years ago?! That kind of person should NOT be in the US Senate.

[Pericles]

Just shows to show the arrogance of Alabama Republics that they think an Alabama Senate race belongs to them automatically so if Democrats win they 'stole' the race.

[Pericles]

Predictit is really reacting to the Fox poll

there has been a 16 cent swing.

Jones all the way to 36

Moore down to 70

Poll is a total outlier.

Multiple polls have shown Jones with a large lead and Emerson is also an outlier.

[Pericles]

WaPo polled it and gave Jones a 3-point lead.

[Pericles]

Fox News says that Moore is the victim of an enthusiasm gap in the race as Democrats are more energized than Republicans.
https://www.google.co.nz/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/11/fox-news-poll-enthused-democrats-give-jones-lead-over-moore-in-alabama.amp.html

[Pericles]

Win or lose tonight, I am proud of Doug and the campaign he ran.

[Pericles]

It could be that Emerson not Fox called the race.

[Pericles]

Nina Turner just called Roy Moore "batshit crazy" on CNN.

Well, I think that’s the first time I’ve ever agreed with her.

CNN's coverage is so anti-Moore, it's not even funny.  And, FOX isn't covering it, so I don't know what to watch.

Sorry but sometimes reality is anti-Republican. The media covers reality and reality has an anti-Republican bias.

[Pericles]

Moore is terrible riding form.

[Pericles]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c9-tuc5E1ZzTEqecVp0D-cpxu2ab3ug9_XEt6R9vMcw/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

[Pericles]

Doug by 2%. Sticking by it.

[Pericles]

It's been called!

[Pericles]

[Pericles]

"With Jones now having been declared the winner by the AP, it’s hard not to see some parallels between his prospective win in Alabama and the Republican Scott Brown’s win in Massachusetts in January 2010, which occurred at similar points in the respective presidencies of Trump and Barack Obama.

Yes, there are a lot of differences: Most notably that Martha Coakley — Brown’s opponent in Massachusetts — was not accused of being a child molester, for example.

But both wins were pretty narrow. And despite extenuating circumstances, neither would probably have occurred if the political winds weren’t blowing strongly — toward Republicans in 2010 and toward Democrats in 2017."-Nate Silver

I told you that Doug would be the Democrat Scott Brown!