Former HPs

[President Johnson]

Since there is a thread for former FFs, we also need one for former HPs.

My suggestions:

- Harry S. Truman: He was pretty racist during his youth due to his social environment, but later became a civil rights champion and went down in history as a really great president for both domestic and foreign policy.
- George Wallace: He was massive HP before 1972, later at least neutral.
- Jeff Flake: I changed my opinion about him since dropped out and endorsed Doug Jones.
- Kurt Georg Kiesinger (former German chancellor): Was a member of the NSDAP (although not a staunch nazi), but became a respectable politican in the 1960s and beyond.

Also worth mentioning: I like Dubya much better since he left office.

Maybe I remember some more later.

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Dino Grandi

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Donald Trump.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Hugo Black

[darklordoftech]

Barry Goldwater was an HP in 1964, but became an FF when he realized what a monster he had unleashed in the form of Reagan.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Also worth mentioning: I like Dubya much better since he left office.

He's still an HP. Just because he's out of office doesn't mean he redeemed himself.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Billy Graham.

[Dr. MB]

George Wallace until the 70s

[Middle-aged Europe]

Heiner Geißler qualifies, I guess.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

George Wallace was the first person to come to mind when I saw this thread.

[Anti-Bothsidesism]

George Wallace is the first person I would consider both a former FF and a former HP.

[Cactus Jack]

I'll admit that my estimation of McCain is a lot better post-2016 than it was before that point.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

I'll admit that my estimation of McCain is a lot better post-2016 than it was before that point.

I don't understand why some liberals speak approvingly of people like W. Bush and McCain just because they're not as bad as Trump.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Billy Graham.

What did he do that made him a FF?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Billy Graham.

What did he do that made him a FF?

Aside from supporting desegregation, I suppose nothing that would be important to a nonbeliever.

[Mr. Smith]

Alben Barkley

[Kamala]

Robert Byrd seems like an easy one.

[Strudelcutie4427]

Mostly former dictactors who became alright guys later

Mikhail Gorbachev
Wojciech Jaruzelski
Hirohito
Werner von Braun
Leonid Kuchma

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

I'll admit that my estimation of McCain is a lot better post-2016 than it was before that point.

I don't understand why some liberals speak approvingly of people like W. Bush and McCain just because they're not as bad as Trump.

It's because of who they are as people.

[TheLeftwardTide]

Hugo Black. 'Nuff said.

On a similar note: literally the entire Democratic Party, over a slow process from Reconstruction to the 1960s.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'll admit that my estimation of McCain is a lot better post-2016 than it was before that point.

I don't understand why some liberals speak approvingly of people like W. Bush and McCain just because they're not as bad as Trump.

It's because of who they are as people.

It's because they're dumb.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Mostly former dictactors who became alright guys later

Mikhail Gorbachev
Wojciech Jaruzelski
Hirohito
Werner von Braun
Leonid Kuchma

Von Braun was a dictator?

[AtorBoltox]

F.W. De Klerk

[Oldiesfreak1854]

George Wallace
Lynx & Lamb Gaede
Blake Farenthold
Mike Lee
Malcolm X
Jimmy Carter (always FF as a person and post-presidency, but an HP while in office).

Billy Graham.

What did he do that made him a FF?

Billy Graham has never been an HP, and something is seriously wrong with you if you think so.

[Santander]

Glad to see so many George Wallace admirers!