Who is the REAL Bernie Sanders?

[Former Kentuckian]

Such a ridiculous hit piece.

Yeah, how dare some people remind us how Bernie actually voted as a congressman.

No, it's ridiculous to have attacks like this:

1.He voted for the Clinton crime bill
2. He voted against the Brady bill

He voted against all the bad parts of the Clinton crime bill in amendments, where the Clintons were of course on the winning side. And if he had voted nay, that 2nd attack would also include that he voted against the assault weapons ban. But, he voted for it in rural Vermont. And of any representative, senator, or governor from the last 25 years in Vermont, Bernie has the lowest NRA rating.

Those were the first 2 attacks. No need to read any more of Peter Douche's garbage.

I see. Now tell us how Hillary, who wasn't actually in congress that time, is responsible for the bill that Bernie voted.

Hillary was a public advocate for Bill's crime law, and both the bill and her support of it are still controversial (her support of the bill including her infamous "super-predator" remark): http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-36020717

Moral of the story is, whether you're a Bernie or Hillary fan, people make choices they regret, and that includes politicians.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Hillary was a public advocate for Bill's crime law, and both the bill and her support of it are still controversial (her support of the bill including her infamous "super-predator" remark): http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-36020717

Moral of the story is, whether you're a Bernie or Hillary fan, people make choices they regret, and that includes politicians.

Bernie voted for that bill. He has no right to attack the Clintons for a bill he voted, unless of course he admits first that he was so feeble-minded that the "evil" Clintons tricked him into voting for something he didn't agree with.

[TheSaint250]

Someone who should stay very far away from the Oval Office.

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Hillary was a public advocate for Bill's crime law, and both the bill and her support of it are still controversial (her support of the bill including her infamous "super-predator" remark): http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-36020717

Moral of the story is, whether you're a Bernie or Hillary fan, people make choices they regret, and that includes politicians.

Bernie voted for that bill. He has no right to attack the Clintons for a bill he voted, unless of course he admits first that he was so feeble-minded that the "evil" Clintons tricked him into voting for something he didn't agree with.

If Bernie had voted no, you'd be attacking him for being a sexist NRA stooge who voted against the assault weapons ban and the violence against women act.

[junior chįmp]

Goodnight, Sweet Prince.

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

[GoTfan]

Goodnight, Sweet Prince.

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

Sure, we're the condescending ones. He's been patronising Sanders supporters for a while now.

[Mister Mets]

I find it hard to take seriously someone who is outraged at the idea that Planned Parenthood is the establishment in the context of a Democratic primary.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

While I agree 100% that Sanders and particularly his cult cost us the 2016 election and gave us President Trump, I really wish we could learn from that going forward rather than trying to unfairly demonize Sanders' record. The Berniecrats are well within their rights pushing for their candidate in 2020, and they should do so. I just wish that we learn from 2016 that you can't go around insinuating that your competent opponents are currupt and that the system is rigged particularly against you and for your opponent. That is super destructive.

Clinton brought on the accusations of corruption herself by visibly giving paid speeches to Goldman Sachs just years before running for President. I have no idea why so many of y'all seem to think that Clinton deserves to be treated with kid gloves or something? That's not how politics works.

Anyway, Chairman Daou is fabulous as usual.

Giving a speech for money isn't a problem. Goldman wanted to hear from her, so why wouldn't she accept--anyone would. I guarantee if the speech was for any other group except this scapegoated corporation, nobody would have cared.

Should that image mean something to me?

[SATW]

Goodnight, Sweet Prince.

I've literally never heard of this dude before. who is he?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Hillary was a public advocate for Bill's crime law, and both the bill and her support of it are still controversial (her support of the bill including her infamous "super-predator" remark): http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-36020717

Moral of the story is, whether you're a Bernie or Hillary fan, people make choices they regret, and that includes politicians.

Bernie voted for that bill. He has no right to attack the Clintons for a bill he voted, unless of course he admits first that he was so feeble-minded that the "evil" Clintons tricked him into voting for something he didn't agree with.

If Bernie had voted no, you'd be attacking him for being a sexist NRA stooge who voted against the assault weapons ban and the violence against women act.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Hasn't the Bernie campaign given you talking points in case someone mentioned what I did?

[Landslide Lyndon]

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

You mean like he was trolling when he accused Halperin, Lauer, Thrush, and other white male journalists of sexism and misogyny because of their extremely slanted coverage of Clinton.
I mean, who would believe that besides a Hillary hack. Amirite?

[BlueSwan]

Such a ridiculous hit piece.

Yeah, how dare some people remind us how Bernie actually voted as a congressman.

No, it's ridiculous to have attacks like this:

1.He voted for the Clinton crime bill
2. He voted against the Brady bill

He voted against all the bad parts of the Clinton crime bill in amendments, where the Clintons were of course on the winning side. And if he had voted nay, that 2nd attack would also include that he voted against the assault weapons ban. But, he voted for it in rural Vermont. And of any representative, senator, or governor from the last 25 years in Vermont, Bernie has the lowest NRA rating.

Those were the first 2 attacks. No need to read any more of Peter Douche's garbage.

It would be wonderful if you could take this kind of nuanced stance on Hillary "voting for the Iraq war", when she during the senate debate very clearly expressed that war would be a bad idea.

[Grassroots]

He tried himself against the establishment and in the democratic primary, even if the majority supports you, then you still lose because they are a invincible power.

[junior chįmp]

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

You mean like he was trolling when he accused Halperin, Lauer, Thrush, and other white male journalists of sexism and misogyny because of their extremely slanted coverage of Clinton.
I mean, who would believe that besides a Hillary hack. Amirite?

Whatever happened to "stronger together" fam?

[GoTfan]

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

You mean like he was trolling when he accused Halperin, Lauer, Thrush, and other white male journalists of sexism and misogyny because of their extremely slanted coverage of Clinton.
I mean, who would believe that besides a Hillary hack. Amirite?

Whatever happened to "stronger together" fam?

It's only "stronger together" whe  they're the ines who are stronger. When the Bernie wing has fuel against them, we're all sexist white male misogynists who know nothing about politics.

[Landslide Lyndon]

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

You mean like he was trolling when he accused Halperin, Lauer, Thrush, and other white male journalists of sexism and misogyny because of their extremely slanted coverage of Clinton.
I mean, who would believe that besides a Hillary hack. Amirite?

Whatever happened to "stronger together" fam?

It's only "stronger together" whe  they're the ines who are stronger. When the Bernie wing has fuel against them, we're all sexist white male misogynists who know nothing about politics.

So, as I understand you both disagree with Daou's assessment that Clinton's coverage was slanted because her harshest critics were a bunch of sexual predators.
Good to know.

[GoTfan]

This is borderline self paradoy

I have a hard time believing this guy isn't trolling

You mean like he was trolling when he accused Halperin, Lauer, Thrush, and other white male journalists of sexism and misogyny because of their extremely slanted coverage of Clinton.
I mean, who would believe that besides a Hillary hack. Amirite?

Whatever happened to "stronger together" fam?

It's only "stronger together" whe  they're the ines who are stronger. When the Bernie wing has fuel against them, we're all sexist white male misogynists who know nothing about politics.

So, as I understand you both disagree with Daou's assessment that Clinton's coverage was slanted because her harshest critics were a bunch of sexual predators.
Good to know.

Show me where I said that.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

"You worked on John Kerry’s and Hillary’s campaigns.

Both lost.

What on earth leads you to believe that you have any credibility whatsoever with regard to prognosticating the 2020 election?"

"I'm very proud to have worked on those campaigns. Which presidential campaigns have you worked on? And won?"

"And the answer was Obama in 2008. Who were you shilling for in 2008?"

"Blocked for not being able to conduct a civilized conversation."

What a dummy. Gets bested in an argument and blocks. God people emotionally connected to their opinions annoy the hell out of me.

[junior chįmp]

"You worked on John Kerry’s and Hillary’s campaigns.

Both lost.

What on earth leads you to believe that you have any credibility whatsoever with regard to prognosticating the 2020 election?"

"I'm very proud to have worked on those campaigns. Which presidential campaigns have you worked on? And won?"

"And the answer was Obama in 2008. Who were you shilling for in 2008?"

"Blocked for not being able to conduct a civilized conversation."

What a dummy. Gets bested in an argument and blocks. God people emotionally connected to their opinions annoy the hell out of me.

Lol

[darklordoftech]

I think that the Democratic establishment is wrong on guns, so Bernie with the NRA is a good thing.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I think that the Democratic establishment is wrong on guns, so Bernie with the NRA is a good thing.

What does that even mean? That Democrats should embrace a far-right hate group like the NRA?

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/looking-for-bernie-part-1-sanders-72.html

A sane criticism of sanders(in the very twitter thread you linked to).

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/looking-for-bernie-part-1-sanders-72.html

A sane criticism of sanders(in the very twitter thread you linked to).

The Bernie campaign called that 45 year old essay stupid. I guess they don't have anything else to attack Bernie's character with, so that's why we hear so much about this nothing.

[darklordoftech]

I think that the Democratic establishment is wrong on guns, so Bernie with the NRA is a good thing.

What does that even mean? That Democrats should embrace a far-right hate group like the NRA?

What it means is that the Democrats should stop pushing gun restrictions.

[Landslide Lyndon]

http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/looking-for-bernie-part-1-sanders-72.html

A sane criticism of sanders(in the very twitter thread you linked to).

The Bernie campaign called that 45 year old essay stupid.

And Roy Moore said he never touched those girls, so I guess everything is OK.

I think that the Democratic establishment is wrong on guns, so Bernie with the NRA is a good thing.

What does that even mean? That Democrats should embrace a far-right hate group like the NRA?

What it means is that the Democrats should stop pushing gun restrictions.

Yeah, how stupid of them to try to prevent kids from getting massacred at their schools.