Why does Australia have low income concentration?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2024, 09:47:37 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Economics (Moderator: Torie)
  Why does Australia have low income concentration?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Why does Australia have low income concentration?  (Read 3642 times)
buritobr
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,662


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: December 17, 2017, 09:28:23 AM »

In 1980, the top 1% of Australia earned 4.6% of the national income. This is skandinavian level. The income concentration increased in the last four decades, and now, the top 1% of Australia earns 9.1% of the national income. However, this is lower than it is in other English language countries.
Why is inequality in Australia low if we compare to other countries?

http://wid.world/share/#0/countriestimeseries/sptinc_p99p100_z/US;GB;AU;CA;SE/last/eu/k/p/yearly/s/false/2.8705/30/curve/false
Logged
GoTfan
GoTfan21
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,701
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 04:53:49 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions.
Logged
john1565
Rookie
**
Posts: 22
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 07:41:06 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions.

Then every country should follow this. Also, Australia should try to decrease that percentage to around 4% again!
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 01:22:14 AM »

The spirit of egalitarianism and the fair go run deep throughout Australia.
Logged
Meclazine for Israel
Meclazine
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,837
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »

Whatever causes this, it is the envy of a lot of Irish, British and Indian skilled workers who flock here in droves.
Logged
🦀🎂🦀🎂
CrabCake
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,267
Kiribati


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 09:17:37 PM »

Hypothesis: the gact that neoliberalism was introduced by the Labor government in alliance with the unions meant that it was less confrontational, and therefore more egalitarian than Thatcherism/Reaganism?
Logged
parochial boy
parochial_boy
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,117


Political Matrix
E: -8.38, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 03:26:46 AM »

According to the OECD it has a GINI coefficient of 0.337, which is better than every Anglophone country other than Canada, but slightly below average in comparison to developed countries as a whole.
Logged
mvd10
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,709


Political Matrix
E: 2.58, S: -2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 04:26:30 AM »

Hypothesis: the gact that neoliberalism was introduced by the Labor government in alliance with the unions meant that it was less confrontational, and therefore more egalitarian than Thatcherism/Reaganism?

Any statistics on New Zealand then? I've always assumed NZ was more egalitarian than other Anglo-Saxon countries so perhaps that can confirm the hypothesis.
Logged
Indy Texas
independentTX
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,272
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: -3.48

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2018, 12:29:45 AM »

The spirit of egalitarianism and the fair go run deep throughout Australia.

Tell that to the aborigines.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2018, 01:02:35 AM »

The spirit of egalitarianism and the fair go run deep throughout Australia.

Tell that to the aborigines.
Australia's nothing if not hypocritical with regards to the Aboriginals.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,864
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2018, 11:17:28 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Logged
AtorBoltox
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,044


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 11:42:04 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
You don't know much about Australia, do you?
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2018, 01:01:22 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,864
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2018, 08:41:54 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 09:42:11 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Where on earth did you get this number, unless you're counting most Asians as "White", which is ridiculous. About 15% of Australians are of Asian ethnicity to begin with.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2018, 09:45:26 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Only around 70% of Australians are of British (British+English+Welsh+Scottish+Irish) ancestry, and that number rapidly falls at each census.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2018, 09:50:40 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Australia is just as white as western Europe, and no contest with regards to the east. The Baltics are all 99% white, and the rest of the former soviet bloc is similarly, though not quite as monolithically, overwhelmingly white.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2018, 09:53:10 AM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
And finally, with regards to heritage you can, and are encouraged to, nominate multiple heritages. Although around 70% of Australians claim British heritage, about 20% inherit that heritage from only one parent, and only about 20% claim solely British heritage.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,864
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2018, 02:16:21 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Where on earth did you get this number, unless you're counting most Asians as "White", which is ridiculous. About 15% of Australians are of Asian ethnicity to begin with.

The ABS reported the top ten ancestries of Australians in 2016.

English - 36.1%
Australian - 33.5% (which the ABS describes as "Anglo-Celtic")
Irish - 11.0%
Scottish - 9.3%
Chinese - 5.6%
Italian - 4.6%
German - 4.5%
Indian - 2.8%
Greek - 1.8%
Dutch - 1.6%

The first four, which are all 'British' ancestries, sum to 89.9%. 
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2018, 05:16:51 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Where on earth did you get this number, unless you're counting most Asians as "White", which is ridiculous. About 15% of Australians are of Asian ethnicity to begin with.

The ABS reported the top ten ancestries of Australians in 2016.

English - 36.1%
Australian - 33.5% (which the ABS describes as "Anglo-Celtic")
Irish - 11.0%
Scottish - 9.3%
Chinese - 5.6%
Italian - 4.6%
German - 4.5%
Indian - 2.8%
Greek - 1.8%
Dutch - 1.6%

The first four, which are all 'British' ancestries, sum to 89.9%. 
About half of those who identify as Australian are anything but "Anglo-Celtic". People who identify as Australian are either patriots, those who can trace all their ancestors to the first, second, third Fleet, and have no real linkage to their distant British heritage, almost all Aboriginal people, because if anyone is Australian, they are, and second, third generation migrants who identify both as the ancestry and Australian.
Logged
Mr. Morden
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,073
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2018, 06:34:57 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Where on earth did you get this number, unless you're counting most Asians as "White", which is ridiculous. About 15% of Australians are of Asian ethnicity to begin with.

The ABS reported the top ten ancestries of Australians in 2016.

English - 36.1%
Australian - 33.5% (which the ABS describes as "Anglo-Celtic")
Irish - 11.0%
Scottish - 9.3%
Chinese - 5.6%
Italian - 4.6%
German - 4.5%
Indian - 2.8%
Greek - 1.8%
Dutch - 1.6%

The first four, which are all 'British' ancestries, sum to 89.9%. 

The fact that the first four sum to 90% should tell you that the total sum of all of them is over 100%.  That's because people can pick more than one category at a time, if they have multiple ancestries.  Hence, you can't simply sum up all the "white" categories to get the white %age of the population, because you don't know which ones are being double counted.
Logged
AustralianSwingVoter
Atlas Politician
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2018, 06:43:17 PM »

A high minimum wage and strong workers' unions A population that is largely racially and ethnically homogeneous.

FTFY
Yeah, NO. We are, as Malcolm constantly says, the most successful multicultural country in the world.

Australians are over 90% White.  That's Whiter than most European countries.

Something like 84% of Australians claim heritage that is primarily associated with the British Isles, even.
Where on earth did you get this number, unless you're counting most Asians as "White", which is ridiculous. About 15% of Australians are of Asian ethnicity to begin with.

The ABS reported the top ten ancestries of Australians in 2016.

English - 36.1%
Australian - 33.5% (which the ABS describes as "Anglo-Celtic")
Irish - 11.0%
Scottish - 9.3%
Chinese - 5.6%
Italian - 4.6%
German - 4.5%
Indian - 2.8%
Greek - 1.8%
Dutch - 1.6%

The first four, which are all 'British' ancestries, sum to 89.9%. 

The fact that the first four sum to 90% should tell you that the total sum of all of them is over 100%.  That's because people can pick more than one category at a time, if they have multiple ancestries.  Hence, you can't simply sum up all the "white" categories to get the white %age of the population, because you don't know which ones are being double counted.

A lot of people pick Australian as their second ancestry, due to patriotism and national pride. This sentiment is particularly common in the migrant community.
Logged
rob in cal
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,984
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2018, 03:54:29 PM »

  But one interesting question is what amount of low-skill, low-educational attainment type immigration has Australia been attracting, or allowed into the country.  I think that might have some type of relationship to the question at hand.
Logged
mileslunn
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,820
Canada


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2018, 06:25:42 PM »

Inequality in Australia is similar to Canada and I don't think it is too far off New Zealand.  It's much less than the United States, but the US unlike most developed countries has a very weak social safety net so less assistance to those at the bottom while minimum wage is higher in Australia and unions are stronger there although weaker than Canada and the UK.  UK has a strong social class system so even with government efforts at re-distribution, the class system is a lot more entrenched than it is in Australia thus the reason it is worse.  Compared to most Western European countries, Australia's inequality is actually on the high side; only UK and Mediterranean countries are as bad or worse.
Logged
Karpatsky
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,545
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2018, 09:51:34 AM »

What does ethnic homogeneity have to do with income concentration anyways?
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.058 seconds with 13 queries.