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« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2018, 09:15:54 PM »

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« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2018, 09:26:09 PM »

So Lamb practically won. Those absentees are going to boost him.

Are they usually Dem leaning? Why?

Wasserman says that in the past, the absentees have run slightly more D than the overall vote.
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« Reply #77 on: March 13, 2018, 09:32:13 PM »

For the record, the official Bush margin of victory in Florida in 2000 was 537 votes. What are we thinking, closer than that?

Probably yes in absolute terms.  In percentage, maybe not.  Florida was 537 votes out of 6 million; there are only about 200K votes here.
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« Reply #78 on: March 13, 2018, 09:38:19 PM »

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« Reply #79 on: March 13, 2018, 09:40:08 PM »

All things considered, I'm glad the Needle wasn't functional tonight.  It would have raised the anxiety level here to new levels.

This race won't be called tonight.
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« Reply #80 on: March 13, 2018, 09:41:28 PM »

Anybody know when the absentee ballots will be counted?

Allegheny should report about midnight.  Greene & Washington won't report until tomorrow morning.  Not sure about Westmoreland.
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« Reply #81 on: March 13, 2018, 09:43:52 PM »

DDHQ just tweeted these numbers:

Lamb (D) - 107, 456 (49.9%)
Saccone (R) - 106,345 (49.4%)
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« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2018, 09:45:41 PM »

Lost in all of this: monmouth pooped the bed.

their high turnout model (which this race is) is off by labout 5 points.

That's holding them to too high a standard.  This is still within the MoE for that projection.  (And historically, the error for polling special elections has been much higher than that for regular elections.)
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« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2018, 09:48:35 PM »


They're saying 100% but unclear if this includes absentees. Greene is counting absentees tomorrow and says they are 100% reporting.

Oh good point.
Did Allegheny already count their absentees?
Are those votes already in with these totals?

No, their absentee count will be done around midnight.

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« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2018, 09:49:59 PM »

755 votes. I don't think Rick can make up raw vote and absentee should boost Lamb around midnight  

Not so sure. Most of the remaining precincts are in Peters, where there are six precincts remaining. It's been strong for Saccone, with his average net votes per precinct around 120 or so. It will be very close before absentees.

The other two Washington county precincts are one in North Strabane, where Saccone should net around 50 votes or so, and one in Chartiers, which should be around a wash.



If Saccone comes out on top tonight but absentees give the victory to Lamb, the meltdown on the right is going to be epic.
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« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2018, 09:56:43 PM »

If absentees come in as expected, Lamb should win in a crazy close squeaker.  Like 200-300 votes maybe?

That's a reasonable estimate.
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« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2018, 09:58:36 PM »

And since Westmoreland isn't reporting results by precinct tonight, we don't know anything about the two remaining ones.
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« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2018, 10:00:24 PM »

What I get is that since it's this close tonight, Lamb will win once absentees are counted tomorrow.

Yeah, Wasserman is saying that Lamb will probably win by a few hundred after absentees are counted.
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« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2018, 10:02:13 PM »

Does someone have the "definite" means of determining that the Allegheny absentees have NOT been counted yet?
This "fact" is scaring me. I need a 100% for sure answer to this.

CNN just said that no absentees have been reported yet.
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« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2018, 10:04:33 PM »

DDHQ says the last 2 Westmoreland precincts are:

Latrobe, 2nd ward
Ligonier (North Ligonier)

These and their absentees will report within the next hour.
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« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2018, 10:05:25 PM »


Per live report on CNN with info they got directly from the county.
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« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2018, 10:07:58 PM »

CNN says 3206 absentees in the other 3 counties.
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« Reply #92 on: March 13, 2018, 10:14:24 PM »

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I'm calling it a night.  Stay safe, folks. Smiley
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« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2018, 08:12:07 AM »

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« Reply #94 on: March 14, 2018, 08:32:34 AM »

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« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2018, 09:19:50 AM »

It seems that the close race, and a the now chance of a recount is allowing the GOP to basically avoid talking about the fact they lost a seat they should never have lost

They can avoid talking, they can spin, but the representatives know what's happening.

They should be quaking in their boots.
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« Reply #96 on: March 14, 2018, 12:39:28 PM »

I think CNN just called the race for Lamb.



When will Lamb take office?

They'll have to wait for the remaining military ballots to arrive and be counted (I think the deadline is Tuesday), any recounts to happen, and the results to be certified.  So I suspect it's at least 2 or 3 weeks at a minimum.
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« Reply #97 on: March 14, 2018, 02:49:42 PM »

Crazy Drumpf



I'm just trying to imagine this spin the morning after Election Night. "Democrats embraced my policies, so I didn't lose the midterms." lololol

If D's win something like 50 seats, I really don't think they'll care much how Trump and other R's spin it.
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« Reply #98 on: March 14, 2018, 06:08:12 PM »

Just realized Lamb will be second youngest person in Congress, he's only 5 days older than Elise Stefanik.
He's five days younger isn't he? Stefanik was born on July 2nd and Lamb was born on June 27th.

Nope.  Earlier birthday = older.
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« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2018, 12:57:08 PM »

Apologies if this has been posted already and I missed it, but PPP did "exit polls" of this race.

When asked "Did you vote for Conor Lamb or Rick Saccone?" 1% of the respondents said "Don't know." Let that sink in for a minute lol.

It might be the people who went third party.

Or not wanting to reveal their choice.
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