NC Congressional maps ruled unconstitutional

[henster]

https://twitter.com/srl/status/950855459371708416

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Par for course in Tarheel Land.

[KingSweden]

Separate from the case against the legislative maps yes?

[Oryxslayer]

Again?

[henster]

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https://twitter.com/mel_bough/status/950860080035004416

[LimoLiberal]

Defendants will probably appeal to SCOTUS to get a stay on it until the Wisconsin case is decided. Still a big win, though.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Glorious news!

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Again?

Yes. The 2015/16 case was based on the districts being a blatantly obvious racial gerrymander, all the state had to do to correct that was clean up the lines a bit, they could still keep it at 10-3 R. This case is based on the districts being a blatantly obvious partisan gerrymander, and the new map resulting from it should be 8-5 R if not 7-6 R.

Glorious news!

[LabourJersey]

Any guesses for how the new map that has to be released on the 24th may affect certain districts?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Any chance the new map being in place for the midterms?

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Any chance the new map being in place for the midterms?

Hopefully, it will be.

It is flat out inexcusable that Democrats do not even have 4 seats.

There should be at the very least:

A Mecklenburg Dem District.
A Wake Dem District.
A Guilford/Forsyth Dem District.
A Wake/Durham/Orange Dem District.

(Wake and Mecklenburg have more people than the District average)

[Oryxslayer]

Any chance the new map being in place for the midterms?

Hopefully, it will be.

It is flat out inexcusable that Democrats do not even have 4 seats.

There should be at the very least:

A Mecklenburg Dem District.
A Wake Dem District.
A Guilford/Forsyth Dem District.
A Wake/Durham/Orange Dem District.

(Wake and Mecklenburg have more people than the District average)

This + the AA seat in the Tidewater regions is probably the best the dems could expect from a Rep House+Sen, and a Special Council. An additional swingish seat in Lafayette/Wilmington area would be too generous, and any other Dem seats would begin to be venturing into a pro-dem map.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

[Nyvin]

Yay for taking 8 years with 2 elections left in the decade!!

Justice for all!!

[Virginiá]

Any chance the new map being in place for the midterms?

Hopefully, it will be.

It is flat out inexcusable that Democrats do not even have 4 seats.

There should be at the very least:

A Mecklenburg Dem District.
A Wake Dem District.
A Guilford/Forsyth Dem District.
A Wake/Durham/Orange Dem District.

(Wake and Mecklenburg have more people than the District average)

This + the AA seat in the Tidewater regions is probably the best the dems could expect from a Rep House+Sen, and a Special Council. An additional swingish seat in Lafayette/Wilmington area would be too generous, and any other Dem seats would begin to be venturing into a pro-dem map.

I'm not sure if we can expect any new map for the 2018 elections. SCOTUS is inevitably going to put a hold on this ruling when Republicans appeal, and SCOTUS will then send it back down after they issue their partisan gerrymandering ruling sometime this year. I don't know when that would be even. If it's this spring, maybe, but if it's this summer, there is no time to redraw the map, especially since the current map's primaries happen before then.

It would be nice if SCOTUS just refused to hold the ruling if they already have decided to rule in favor of limiting partisan gerrymandering. North Carolina lawmakers flat out admitted it was a partisan gerrymander meant to maximize their gains - they did this to insulate themselves from a racial gerrymandering case. It's open-and-shut lol.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Yay for taking 8 years with 2 elections left in the decade!!

Justice for all!!

We need nonpartisan redistricting commissions everywhere.

[Dr. MB]

Good news, hopefully this will go into effect soon. Ohio, Michigan, and Maryland next!

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Good news, hopefully this will go into effect soon. Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania next!

FTFY

Also, Maryland is an ugly gerrymander, but it does not have any major partisan implications.

[Oryxslayer]

Wow, its one @politicswolfs congressional maps. The partisan hacks strike again and have successfully convinced someone that their maps are 'fair.' Those three 'competitive' seats he has colored there are R+3.6 (2), R+6.6 (7), and R+8.8 (11). The only one there I would call competitive is the 2nd, and that is exactly what I meant by a competitive seat in Fayetteville/Willmington area. It could be even more competative (R+0.5) if you head south from Fayette rather then north.

Please don't ever post one of his maps ever again. He presents data in such a way and twists the rules of redistricting to his worldview, and then says 'this is the only correct way to do it.' I could rant about maps like this for ages.

[DrScholl]

The 7th and the 11th were represented by Democrats not so long ago, so they could possibly go Democratic in the way that FL-2 went Democratic for Gwen Graham. The redistricting app is open to everyone, so people should present maps that they think are fair.

[Adam Griffin]

I haven't been following this because it seems like this is about the 437th time that some form of NC legislative maps have been ruled unconstitutional and/or gerrymanders this decade, and yet the state is still a gerrymandered hell at every level. What is the significance here and what concrete effects will it have?

[Oryxslayer]

I haven't been following this because it seems like this is about the 437th time that some form of NC legislative maps have been ruled unconstitutional and/or gerrymanders this decade, and yet the state is still a gerrymandered hell at every level. What is the significance here and what concrete effects will it have?

The difference is that there is now a court appointed special master involved - if the case goes through. This will moderate the map at some level, probably ensuring the dems gain one seat at minimum. This is all resting of the Supreme's not staying the case of course, which in turn probably relies on their future verdict over the Wisconsin case.

[MarkD]

We need nonpartisan redistricting commissions everywhere.

This is an idea that I included in my proposal to rewrite Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. I drafted an amendment which includes this wording:
States shall adopt redistricting processes to assure that congressional, state, and local legislative districts will not be “gerrymandered.” Iowa’s Legislative Services Bureau is one example of a permissible redistricting process, or states may adopt independent redistricting commissions; using algorithms is encouraged, but the power to draw districts must be taken away from each state legislature.

[VPH]

What if they redistrict to screw over candidates like Dan McReady?

[Sestak]

Wow, its one @politicswolfs congressional maps. The partisan hacks strike again and have successfully convinced someone that their maps are 'fair.' Those three 'competitive' seats he has colored there are R+3.6 (2), R+6.6 (7), and R+8.8 (11). The only one there I would call competitive is the 2nd, and that is exactly what I meant by a competitive seat in Fayetteville/Willmington area. It could be even more competative (R+0.5) if you head south from Fayette rather then north.

Please don't ever post one of his maps ever again. He presents data in such a way and twists the rules of redistricting to his worldview, and then says 'this is the only correct way to do it.' I could rant about maps like this for ages.

Uh, I'd say 7-5-1 is pretty reasonable, especially compared to what we have now.