Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Meeker]

I'd like to introduce this bill:

Pacific Representation Act
Section 1: The Pacific region shall elect two Class A Senators to the Atlasian Senate. The two Senators shall be elected in concurrent but separate elections under the same schedule all other regions elect Class A Senators.

[bgwah]

I'd like to introduce this bill:

Pacific Representation Act
Section 1: The Pacific region shall elect two Class A Senators to the Atlasian Senate. The two Senators shall be elected in concurrent but separate elections under the same schedule all other regions elect Class A Senators.

X Bgwah

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

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What is the current regional tax rate?

I think it is around 10% right now.  There aren't any reliable recent records on the tax rate for the past few admins.

I'd like to introduce this bill:

Pacific Representation Act
Section 1: The Pacific region shall elect two Class A Senators to the Atlasian Senate. The two Senators shall be elected in concurrent but separate elections under the same schedule all other regions elect Class A Senators.

X Bgwah

So after reading through the Third Constitution, apparently, this is legal.  Of course, I am opposed to it but I can't really hold up debate.  So I'll leave debate open for a week on both bills.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So we have the constitutional right to elect as many senators as we want ? That makes no sense.

[Oakvale]

I've flown in from my adopted home to urge you all to vote for this constitutional-crisis-causing bill. God knows we could use the excitement.

[Junkie]

I won't.  Plus, I am glad that Kal acted so quickly to try and stop this.  Although, I think Marokai's analysis about the numbers is correct, I think having the constitution put this out so clearly is good.  It is quite amazing that no tried this before.  It is quite brilliant.  My hat is off to Meeker for catching this.  That being said, I think it destroys the point of all Senate elections if regions just start creating senate seats.  It will lead to senate seat creation wars where in parties with more power in a region and thus confident of victory will race to create seats to control the Senate. 

[Ebowed]

I'd like to introduce this bill:

Pacific Representation Act
Section 1: The Pacific region shall elect two Class A Senators to the Atlasian Senate. The two Senators shall be elected in concurrent but separate elections under the same schedule all other regions elect Class A Senators.

x Ebowed

[Antonio the Sixth]

I won't.  Plus, I am glad that Kal acted so quickly to try and stop this.  Although, I think Marokai's analysis about the numbers is correct, I think having the constitution put this out so clearly is good.  It is quite amazing that no tried this before.  It is quite brilliant.  My hat is off to Meeker for catching this.  That being said, I think it destroys the point of all Senate elections if regions just start creating senate seats.  It will lead to senate seat creation wars where in parties with more power in a region and thus confident of victory will race to create seats to control the Senate. 

I will oppose this bill as well. That might be fun (and it is indeed extremely amusing ) but we can't create a constitutional crisis just for fun.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I won't.  Plus, I am glad that Kal acted so quickly to try and stop this.  Although, I think Marokai's analysis about the numbers is correct, I think having the constitution put this out so clearly is good.  It is quite amazing that no tried this before.  It is quite brilliant.  My hat is off to Meeker for catching this.  That being said, I think it destroys the point of all Senate elections if regions just start creating senate seats.  It will lead to senate seat creation wars where in parties with more power in a region and thus confident of victory will race to create seats to control the Senate. 

I get the distinct impression there will be an attempt to torpedo the Constitutional fix for this sort of thing at the ratification level. But we'll see I suppose. People need to realize what is excitement and what is just causing alot of a frustrating mess for no reason that will either get us nowhere or just be destructive. There's no good outcome to this.

I know you all want to find "excitement" in your own perverse way, but speaking out of character here as people you guys must realize this is not going to do anything good. You're trying to trivialize the very thing Atlasia is founded on, and once you start pulling threads out here and there and stop playing along in the game you're just going to break the whole thing. It's not going to be "fun" for anyone, it's just detrimental all around. Ultimately you're breaking the very nature of elections with something like this and I would just implore you to be serious just for a second as, you know, actual people, and not do this.

This is a game, the second you start disrupting every possible thing you can at every turn, the whole thing just falls apart. That's what you're doing here. You're not making the game more fun, you're trying to knock down support beams that hold the game up at all.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Alright, everyone take a steap back and count to 10......

[bgwah]

Alright, everyone take a steap back and count to 10......

*breathes*

since you're a Midwesterner you need to give us a *hughughug* lesson

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Alright, everyone take a steap back and count to 10......

*breathes*

since you're a Midwesterner you need to give us a *hughughug* lesson

Yes, that sounds ideal.   

[proceeds to hug all in arguement]

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Well it's been a week, so voting is open for both.

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Aye
Pacific Representation Act: Nay

[Ebowed]

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Nay
Pacific Representation Act: Aye

[Meeker]

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Nay
Pacific Representation Act: Aye

[bgwah]

aye
aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Aye
Pacific Representation Act: Nay

[Junkie]

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Aye
Pacific Representation Act: Nay

[Jackson]

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Aye
Pacific Representation Act: Aye

[Junkie]

Hey are we going to open a booth on the amendments or did I miss it?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Hey are we going to open a booth on the amendments or did I miss it?

I just did.  Sorry all, I didn't realize I wouldn't have internet for the first two days here in Chicago.

[bgwah]

Sustainable Pacifican Cities Bill
1) There shall be no locally-mandated building height limits below 125' within 1/4 a mile of a rail transit system station, including but not limited to rapid transit and light rail.
2) There shall be no locally-mandated parking requirement above 0.5 parking stalls per unit within 1/4 a mile of a rail transit system station, including but not limited to rapid transit and light rail.
3) High-density, transit-oriented residential developments within 1/2 a mile of a rail transit system, including but not limited to rapid transit and light rail, as well as bus rapid transit, shall be exempt from regional taxes. High-density residential projects shall be defined as those with at least 100 units per acre.

[bgwah]

^ I of course sign the above bill: x bgwah


Oceania Incorporation Bill
1) Whereas Oceania has recently been admitted as a state to Atlasia and become the 11th state of the Pacific Region following the passage of the federal government's Island Enfranchisement Act.
2) Whereas the state of Oceania is composed of the former Atlasian territories of Guam, American Samoa, and the Northern Mariana Islands, with the admittance of Palau, the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Samoa pre-approved should they decide to join by democratic means.
3) Whereas each former territory and each future potential entrant of Oceania currently have their own local governments and are separated from each other by distances of up to many hundreds of miles.
4) Therefore each former territory and potential future entrant shall maintain their local governments which shall become county-level equivalents in the new state of Oceania. The state of Oceania will thus largely be used as a vehicle to ensure full voting rights for Oceanians in federal elections.

x bgwah

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Obviously, the bill will only be up for debate until there are others to cosign with you.

Now that I am back from New York, I can be on here now (I miss having a life):

Give and You Shall Receive Act: Passed 5-2-0
Pacific Representation Act: Passed 4-3-0

Sorry guys but I'm going to have to pull a veto on the Pacific Representation Act, considering that Kal's amendment has rendered it void nonetheless.

x ArchangelZero

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Are there amendments we are supposed to be voting on?