The most overlooked primary state with an illogical result

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Why did 🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🌊 vote for Hillary? It's the second-most illogical result after Ohio imho.

It did make sense in 2008, but not that much in 2016.
Hillary had her Bill's home state advantage in Arkansas.
The possibility for KY Democrats of being able to vote uncommitted saved Hillary in Kentucky; otherwise the result would have nearly been the same as in West Virginia.
But why did the people of 🎾👁️ support her? Only 17% of them are black, and the white people that supported her back in 2008 should have turned into Berniecrats in the meantime, like in every other state.
Western North Carolina proves how that state should have voted.
Almost every 2016 primary county map looks like a negative of the 2008 maps; this state is the only exception, and no one has talked about it.

[catographer]

Which state is this? Missouri? You replaced the state name with peach emojis.

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Which state is this? Missouri? You replaced the state name with peach emojis.

Yes, I did it because it is so drastically overlooked and make you think about the state. There is so little talk about its primary here.
(Plus I love emoji quizzes. )

Btw, I also replaced it with a tennis racket, and the peaches can also symbolize something else...

PS: I already made a thread about Missouri, asking why its primary results are always so close.

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/6rziw4/state_performances_of_hillary_clinton_in_the_2008/

[bagelman]

SD?

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SD?

No, we discussed SD very much, since it is probably the most interesting primary state.

But the fact that y'all can't guess that state proves how widely ignored it is.
(And yes, in terms of general and primary elections it is indeed pretty boring.)

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Kentucky?

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Kentucky?

You're all kidding me, right?
Kentucky is already mentioned in the opening post.

[Dr. Arch]

I think he's talking about Tennessee.

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I think he's talking about Tennessee.

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[Dr. Arch]

I think he's talking about Tennessee.

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It's actually an interesting observation. The continuum that starts in western NC abruptly ends at the tip of eastern TN. She netted over 60% of the vote there. What makes TN so different from KY and western NC? As you pointed out, the results suggest the racial composition of a different state altogether.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Just curious, how do peaches (booties?) and a wave represent Tennessee?

[Dr. Arch]

Just curious, how do peaches (booties?) and a wave represent Tennessee?

Ten peaches and a sea.

Ten a sea

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Just curious, how do peaches (booties?) and a wave represent Tennessee?

Ten peaches and a sea.

Ten a sea

It's actually "10 ass sea", but you're still the most intelligent person on this site.
But I like the tennis racket and the eye still a little bit more.

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It's actually an interesting observation. The continuum that starts in western NC abruptly ends at the tip of eastern TN. She netted over 60% of the vote there. What makes TN so different from KY and western NC? As you pointed out, the results suggest the racial composition of a different state altogether.

But if the racial composition resulted in such a huge Hillary win, why didn't Obama win 🎾👁️ in 2008?

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Just curious, how do peaches (booties?) and a wave represent Tennessee?

Ten peaches and a sea.

Ten a sea

It's actually "10 ass sea", but you're still the most intelligent person on this site.
But I like the tennis racket and the eye still a little bit more.

That sounds like a state I'd like to live in

[Rookie Yinzer]

The primary electorate got a tad bit more black. It was 67-29 in 2008 and 63-32 in 2016. Hillary won whites handily in 2008, and got obliterated with blacks. Sanders did better with whites than Obama, but Hillary held the majority of whites, while doing this she also got 89 percent of the black vote. It's not surprising she won by a larger margin.

ETA: She actually did significantly better with blacks in 2008 than Sanders in 2016. Tennessee AAs voted 77-22 Obama in 2008 and 89-10 Clinton in 2016. Near unanimous support from 1/3 of the electorate while only losing about 10 percent of support from whites provides the decisive win she got here.

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But Tennessee whites seem to have a different political world view than all the other whites in the country.

[Xing]

Another part of it is that Bernie really didn't compete in Tennessee. He tended to massively underperform in states that he didn't seriously compete in (he got massacred in the Deep South, he won Montana by a very underwhelming margin, he lost South Dakota), so that might partially explain why he did so poorly. That actually makes New Mexico seem like an outlier (if anything, he overperformed there, but age might have had something to do with that.)

[Kamala]

SD?

No, we discussed SD very much, since it is probably the most interesting primary state.

But the fact that y'all can't guess that state proves how widely ignored it is.
(And yes, in terms of general and primary elections it is indeed pretty boring.)

it's because we're basically last to hold a primary...

[twenty42]

Another part of it is that Bernie really didn't compete in Tennessee. He tended to massively underperform in states that he didn't seriously compete in (he got massacred in the Deep South, he won Montana by a very underwhelming margin, he lost South Dakota), so that might partially explain why he did so poorly. That actually makes New Mexico seem like an outlier (if anything, he overperformed there, but age might have had something to do with that.)

The big question of the 2016 Democratic Primary is why did Bernie ignore so many states? The primary isn’t a winner-take-all system like the GE...you can still get delegates from states you lose. Bernie could’ve gotten a lot more delegates if he had at least attempted to tighten some of the margins in southern and mid-Atlantic states. This is exactly how Obama upset Hillary eight years prior, so I’m not sure why it wasn’t part of Bernie’s strategy.

[Kingpoleon]

I think he's talking about Tennessee.

I think the reference to western North Carolina should have made it geographically obvious.

[IceSpear]

Another part of it is that Bernie really didn't compete in Tennessee. He tended to massively underperform in states that he didn't seriously compete in (he got massacred in the Deep South, he won Montana by a very underwhelming margin, he lost South Dakota), so that might partially explain why he did so poorly. That actually makes New Mexico seem like an outlier (if anything, he overperformed there, but age might have had something to do with that.)

The big question of the 2016 Democratic Primary is why did Bernie ignore so many states? The primary isn’t a winner-take-all system like the GE...you can still get delegates from states you lose. Bernie could’ve gotten a lot more delegates if he had at least attempted to tighten some of the margins in southern and mid-Atlantic states. This is exactly how Obama upset Hillary eight years prior, so I’m not sure why it wasn’t part of Bernie’s strategy.

I don't think Bernie had any illusions of actually winning the nomination until after Michigan. But by then it was too late.

[OneJ]

Another part of it is that Bernie really didn't compete in Tennessee. He tended to massively underperform in states that he didn't seriously compete in (he got massacred in the Deep South, he won Montana by a very underwhelming margin, he lost South Dakota), so that might partially explain why he did so poorly. That actually makes New Mexico seem like an outlier (if anything, he overperformed there, but age might have had something to do with that.)

This.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Just curious, how do peaches (booties?) and a wave represent Tennessee?

Ten peaches and a sea.

Ten a sea

That's lame lol