pro-Bernie states vs. anti-Hillary states

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

There is a broad consensus that many votes for Bernie weren't cast to show the voters' support for him, but rather to show strong disapproval of Hillary and the party establishment. Never would most of his supporters voters have gave him their votes in the general election.

[Dr. MB]

West Virginia is the only definitive one (that’s why so many people also voted for Keith Judd and Paul Farrell). Maybe some of the midwestern states he won by close margins (Michigan, for example). I’d also say Kentucky had he won (it’s still a big surprise to me that he didn’t).

[YE]

West Virginia is the only definitive one (that’s why so many people also voted for Keith Judd and Paul Farrell). Maybe some of the midwestern states he won by close margins (Michigan, for example). I’d also say Kentucky had he won (it’s still a big surprise to me that he didn’t).

This (Bernie does have some non-protest vote appeal in the southern part of the state but not enough to make anywhere near a majority of the electorate), plus Oklahoma.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

West Virginia is the only definitive one (that’s why so many people also voted for Keith Judd and Paul Farrell). Maybe some of the midwestern states he won by close margins (Michigan, for example). I’d also say Kentucky had he won (it’s still a big surprise to me that he didn’t).

I think the possibility of being able to vote uncommitted helped Hillary very much.

[Xing]

Oklahoma and West Virginia

[OSR stands with Israel]

[Dr. MB]

Montana?

[SingingAnalyst]

I went with OK, WV, and WY for sure; however, I have no doubt that the anti-Hillary impetus was present in all of the above states to a greater or lesser degree.

[The Govanah Jake]

Oklahoma and West Virginia are probably the most objectively correct answers due to the larger numbers of other candidate voters during their primary's. These are the same voters who caused Obama to significantly underperform in these same states in 2012 and its more likely then not that they voted for Bernie Sanders do too him not being Hillary Clinton rather then his policy's. If they did vote in their own policy ideas (say against someone like Clinton, but not), i doubt such a socially liberal "Socialist" would do so well.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

West Virginia

The only one I voted for, as it was the only one with many voters saying they were going to vote for Donald Trump in the general, in any event, even if Bernie Sanders was the nominee.

[IceSpear]

Oklahoma and West Virginia

This is the correct answer.

[RINO Tom]

Oklahoma and West Virginia, given the closed primairy status.  Not sure why anyone said Wyoming ... SO many more people vote in the GOP primaries in Wyoming that it's not at all crazy to think the Democratic electorate there is pretty liberal.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Oklahoma and West Virginia, given the closed primairy status.  Not sure why anyone said Wyoming ... SO many more people vote in the GOP primaries in Wyoming that it's not at all crazy to think the Democratic electorate there is pretty liberal.

Exactly. All the Mountain West states that voted for Bernie had also voted the the more liberal candidate back in 2008, which doesn't apply to WV, OK and IN.
Speaking of Indiana, I wonder why not more users have voted for that option...

[IceSpear]

Oklahoma and West Virginia, given the closed primairy status.  Not sure why anyone said Wyoming ... SO many more people vote in the GOP primaries in Wyoming that it's not at all crazy to think the Democratic electorate there is pretty liberal.

Exactly. All the Mountain West states that voted for Bernie had also voted the the more liberal candidate back in 2008, which doesn't apply to WV, OK and IN.
Speaking of Indiana, I wonder why not more users have voted for that option...

Indiana isn't a hotbed of right wing Trump loving Democrats like in WV/OK. Had Bernie won KY that would've qualified as well.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

No mentions of Rhode Island?

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

No mentions of Rhode Island?

Rhode Island probably supported Bernie instead of showing disapproval of Hillary.

[Tintrlvr]

I think there were some such voters everywhere.

I think it's unambiguous that such voters put Sanders over the top in West Virginia and Oklahoma, and indeed constituted most of his "support" there. One only needs glance at the 2008 primary results to reach this conclusion. (The same is also true across the rest of the Southern and Appalachian parts of the country, where Sanders of course did not win in any case.)

I think they were not a big factor outside of the South and Appalachia but enough to make the difference when the race was very close (Michigan, Rhode Island).

I actually generally think the Mountain West support for Sanders was mostly genuine; these were just mostly caucus states with comically low turnout and the other problems with caucuses.

[IceSpear]

I think there were some such voters everywhere.

I think it's unambiguous that such voters put Sanders over the top in West Virginia and Oklahoma, and indeed constituted most of his "support" there. One only needs glance at the 2008 primary results to reach this conclusion. (The same is also true across the rest of the Southern and Appalachian parts of the country, where Sanders of course did not win in any case.)

I think they were not a big factor outside of the South and Appalachia but enough to make the difference when the race was very close (Michigan, Rhode Island).

I actually generally think the Mountain West support for Sanders was mostly genuine; these were just mostly caucus states with comically low turnout and the other problems with caucuses.

Rhode Island wasn't really close. He won it by 12 points.

[I’m not Stu]

Anti-Hillary states
Pro-Bernie states
States Hillary won

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

As of the 12 people who selected Kansas: I don't agree. I heard the Kansan Democrats are very progressive.

[VPH]

As of the 12 people who selected Kansas: I don't agree. I heard the Kansan Democrats are very progressive.

There was definitely more pro-Bernie sentiment than anti-Hillary among Kansas Dems

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

As of the 12 people who selected Kansas: I don't agree. I heard the Kansan Democrats are very progressive.

There was definitely more pro-Bernie sentiment than anti-Hillary among Kansas Dems

What about their Nebraskan brethren? Are they similarly progressive as the Kansan Democrats?

[Perlen vor den Schweinen]

As of the 12 people who selected Kansas: I don't agree. I heard the Kansan Democrats are very progressive.

There was definitely more pro-Bernie sentiment than anti-Hillary among Kansas Dems

What about their Nebraskan brethren? Are they similarly progressive as the Kansan Democrats?

The Nebraska Democratic Party itself does not have centrist rhetoric. They are pretty progressive.
However, most Nebraska Democrats who have actually won have been either conservadems (such as Ben Nelson) or have moderate rhetoric (like Brad Ashford or Bob Kerrey). The way you act matters if you want to be elected as a Democrat in Nebraska. Scott Kleeb almost won the open 3rd CD in 2006 by having an appealing background for the district, if I recall correctly.

Most Nebraska Democrats realize they can't be all liberal all the time on the issues. Jane Kleeb (Scott Kleeb's wife) is the current party chair, and was elected chair because of the support of Berniecrats. She seems to be avoiding social issues, focusing more on environmental issues (pipelines and the like).

[morgieb]

It pretty obviously happened in Oklahoma and West Virginia at least. Maybe it happened in the West, but weren't most of those caucuses? Therefore leading to a genuinely left-wing electorate?

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

It pretty obviously happened in Oklahoma and West Virginia at least. Maybe it happened in the West, but weren't most of those caucuses? Therefore leading to a genuinely left-wing electorate?

Yes. Washington and Nebraska held both a primary and a caucus.
While Bernie won both caucuses, Hillary won both primaries.