HB 1187: Act to Preserve and Cherish Native Atlasian Culture (Passed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Unless I am missing it, this bill would presently violate the House's paygo resolution since the $10 million isn't funded.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Unless I am missing it, this bill would presently violate the House's paygo resolution since the $10 million isn't funded.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I motion to override Article 2 Section 6  of the House rules for this bill. As for a fix I have introduced a massive overhaul to the rule that I am hopeful the house can pass.

Doesn't this imply that the rule itself is the problem and not the unfunded appropriations?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Also I'd have to double check on actual numbers, but it appears the cost of this can go down, too. I can see a large amount to build and open the museum, but I am curious why $10 million annually and if it's feasible to lower the annual budget for it to make it a bit more passable since money is the big issue.

     I would expect a large initial investment and a smaller ongoing one. An investment static in time does not make sense for a museum.

I generally agree with this interpretation.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Keep in mind that debt itself functions as a tax in way or another. Either you directly tax to pay it down, inflate your way out of it (which is regressive in nature I would add) or pay higher interest rates (which means borrowing money in the private sector becomes harder.

Deficit spending at these levels of deficit is basically the same as raising taxes on the poor, but with a ten year delay.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Was this estimate ever obtained and if so what is the eta on its availability?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So anyone have a spare $7 million dollars laying around?


You know this doesn't have to be so damn hard. The problem here is the record setting levels of disengagement from legislating.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As of last check it wouldn't even display.


since the format has 1 = billion and only has two decimals, so anything under 10 million is pathetic.

That being said it is pathetic that we cannot find the money.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Fine, if I have to be Rand Paul than I will be Rand Paul damn it!

No I will not motion to override paygo, and I object to such if someone else motions for it.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Slight typo, that would be H11:16 not 15.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

In this game we don't have separate appropriations and authorizations bills. Typically a bill like this would authorize spending and then the appropriations bills would fund it.

In their absence, each bill that stipulates funding both authorizes and appropriates that money. The Paygo resolution insisted on having a dedicated funding regime or a cut in funding to something else to pay for all such new spending. Subsequent to the amendment recently, that is still the case though now you have to stipulate the Department too, though in terms of practice that is still rough on the edges, with references to Internal Affairs as opposed to say Indian Affairs or something of that nature.

That is the most basic rundown of how paygo works here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE