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« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2018, 01:56:20 AM »

CNN got the result they sought out to get. It’s hardly surprising.

The Midwest is particularly swingy. One wonders why people here seem to extrapolate such ‘scientific’ panels so drastically.

If you asked Obama voters in early 2010, the results would have been the same. And yet...
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2018, 02:16:56 AM »

what if CNN interviews a panel of California Clinton voters. would they love Trump??? what will the hot takes be from Gloria Boerger and Pamela Brown???
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« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2018, 11:47:54 AM »

Cool.
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« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2018, 12:31:08 PM »

I'd much rather a POLL of Ohio than a group of Republicans praising a Republican President. We haven't had a poll for Ohio in months to gauge anything, just anecdotals.
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« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2018, 01:45:55 PM »

Speaking as someone whose family is from Ohio, the only people who live in Ohio these days are the ones who don't have the good sense to move somewhere else. No shock that figure disproportionately includes Deplorables.

Columbus and Cincinnati are great cities, and Ohio is the best state in the Midwest

Exactly why???

While it's certainly not the "best state in the Midwest" (IMO), the difference in tone toward it between 2012 and now is hilarious.  In 2012, it was a big state with multiple urban centers that pushed it into the Democrats' favor and rural areas that weren't "southernized" enough to fall for the GOP's racism and evangelism.  Now the entire state is equated to an abandoned factory in Youngstown.  Objectively speaking, Ohio is not some shlthole.
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« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2018, 02:27:10 PM »

Speaking as someone whose family is from Ohio, the only people who live in Ohio these days are the ones who don't have the good sense to move somewhere else. No shock that figure disproportionately includes Deplorables.

Columbus and Cincinnati are great cities, and Ohio is the best state in the Midwest

Exactly why???

While it's certainly not the "best state in the Midwest" (IMO), the difference in tone toward it between 2012 and now is hilarious.  In 2012, it was a big state with multiple urban centers that pushed it into the Democrats' favor and rural areas that weren't "southernized" enough to fall for the GOP's racism and evangelism.  Now the entire state is equated to an abandoned factory in Youngstown.  Objectively speaking, Ohio is not some shlthole.

Well, I'm not one such Democrat, but I absolutely do not believe it's the "best state in the Midwest." I've visited almost all of the Midwestern states, and, outside of the beauty of the state, it was rather lackluster when compared to MN, IL, or MI.
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« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2018, 03:29:09 PM »

I'd much rather a POLL of Ohio than a group of Republicans praising a Republican President. We haven't had a poll for Ohio in months to gauge anything, just anecdotals.

True. And that is what counts. I don't think that there has been a statewide poll of Ohio since the 2016 election.

President Trump promised a great increase in jobs through infrastructure spending, which implies that there will be jobs in mining (coal, ore, and limestone for steel production), steel, concrete, copper, and glass.  The greatest variable use of steel is in construction -- and not vehicles and machinery. It's telling that the ends of costly infrastructure projects typically have recessions following them as happened with the ends of the building of some giant bridge and tunnel  projects (George Washington, Bay and Golden Gate in the 1930s, Mackinac in the 1959s, Verrazzano Narrows around 1970, and most recently Boston's Big Dig and the Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge. Workers may be naive about language and logic, but they certainly know their short-term economics; they know what can put food on the table and allow them to update their material lives. 

So if Donald Trump is a corrupt, racist pig... at least he makes some promises that Obama and Clinton dared not make.  The Devil will be in the details, and I suspect that most of the infrastructure projects that President Trump wants will be privatization followed by monopolistic gouging, a very raw deal for people not building the infrastructure or supplying the materials.

This will bring another boom and bust. 

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