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« on: January 22, 2018, 08:30:57 AM »

What would the margins in the swing states have been without the Access Hollywood tape?
My tough guess, of the close ones:
Florida: +2.8 Trump
Wisconsin: +1.3 Trump
Pennsylvania: +1.8 Trump
Michigan: +.90 Trump
Nevada: +1 Trump
Minnesota: +.20 Trump
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 10:23:56 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2018, 10:29:48 AM by here2view »

He would have won New Hampshire, a state he only lost by around 3,000 votes. As for the others, I'd probably give him anywhere from a .25 to .50 percent bump. It depends on the state. I don't think the tape had as big of an impact on the election. Had it been released 3 weeks later it would have been a different story.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 02:05:00 PM »

He would have won New Hampshire, a state he only lost by around 3,000 votes. As for the others, I'd probably give him anywhere from a .25 to .50 percent bump. It depends on the state. I don't think the tape had as big of an impact on the election. Had it been released 3 weeks later it would have been a different story.

Yep, it was pretty irrelevant by the end due to Americans' goldfish like attention span. Reverse the timing of Access Hollywood and the Comey letter and it's a whole new ball game.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 09:46:13 PM »

He would have won New Hampshire, a state he only lost by around 3,000 votes. As for the others, I'd probably give him anywhere from a .25 to .50 percent bump. It depends on the state. I don't think the tape had as big of an impact on the election. Had it been released 3 weeks later it would have been a different story.

Yep, it was pretty irrelevant by the end due to Americans' goldfish like attention span. Reverse the timing of Access Hollywood and the Comey letter and it's a whole new ball game.

Yup. Frankly I don't think the Hollywood tape changed many voters' minds. If you thought he was a scummy sexist pig, it was confirmed. If you thought otherwise, then you ignored the tape.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 10:11:07 PM »

He would have won New Hampshire, a state he only lost by around 3,000 votes. As for the others, I'd probably give him anywhere from a .25 to .50 percent bump. It depends on the state. I don't think the tape had as big of an impact on the election. Had it been released 3 weeks later it would have been a different story.

Yep, it was pretty irrelevant by the end due to Americans' goldfish like attention span. Reverse the timing of Access Hollywood and the Comey letter and it's a whole new ball game.

Yup. Frankly I don't think the Hollywood tape changed many voters' minds. If you thought he was a scummy sexist pig, it was confirmed. If you thought otherwise, then you ignored the tape.

Don't undersell it. It changed the mind of the "swing voters" for a whole week! That's practically an eternity by American standards. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 10:34:54 PM »

He would have won New Hampshire, a state he only lost by around 3,000 votes. As for the others, I'd probably give him anywhere from a .25 to .50 percent bump. It depends on the state. I don't think the tape had as big of an impact on the election. Had it been released 3 weeks later it would have been a different story.

Yep, it was pretty irrelevant by the end due to Americans' goldfish like attention span. Reverse the timing of Access Hollywood and the Comey letter and it's a whole new ball game.

Yup. Frankly I don't think the Hollywood tape changed many voters' minds. If you thought he was a scummy sexist pig, it was confirmed. If you thought otherwise, then you ignored the tape.

Don't undersell it. It changed the mind of the "swing voters" for a whole week! That's practically an eternity by American standards. Wink

It enrages me to no end, that after a whole month of Trump getting embarrassed and blasted in 3 debates and admitting to committing sexual assault on tape, that people didn't care and changed their minds because some emails were revealed that turned out to be utterly meaningless.

In my view, it was a huge con pulled on us that the public was made to believe that Clinton was some corrupt criminal mastermind, whereas Trump was this outsider muckraker. People will believe the dumbest lies.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 08:29:33 AM »

Like anyone actually cared about the tape except disaffected white women.
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