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« on: January 24, 2018, 09:05:06 am »
« edited: January 24, 2018, 11:33:27 am by TheRocketRaccoon »

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article196278884.html

Cruz approval 38-49
O'Rourke approval 20-19 (do not know 61)



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Full poll here: http://endcitizensunited.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TexasResults.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 09:21:40 am »

Welp, it's entirely possible O'Rourke could win this. It depends on whether there is a wave and just how big it is. O'Rourke, on his own, is already an excellent candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2018, 11:56:16 am »

Welp, it's entirely possible O'Rourke could win this. It depends on whether there is a wave and just how big it is. O'Rourke, on his own, is already an excellent candidate.

He still only has 39% name ID though. He should quickly define himself through ads before Cruz has the opportunity to.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 12:09:24 pm »

The fact that an internal poll for a liberal anti-CU group doesn't even show O'Rourke at 40% just shows how Safe R this race is. Next.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 12:17:23 pm »

The fact that an internal poll for a liberal anti-CU group doesn't even show O'Rourke at 40% just shows how Safe R this race is. Next.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 01:00:48 pm »

Internal for a biased group = Trash.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 01:04:57 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 01:07:18 pm »

Why do you dismiss PPP poll out of hand? Their Virginia and Alabama polls have been anything but Dem friendly.

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 01:09:22 pm »

This reminds me of Paul vs Gray.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2018, 01:10:15 pm »

Why do you dismiss PPP poll out of hand? Their Virginia and Alabama polls have been anything but Dem friendly.



I dismiss all polls that are paid for by groups with an explicit political agenda, regardless of track record or ideology.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 01:11:02 pm »

Why do you dismiss PPP poll out of hand? Their Virginia and Alabama polls have been anything but Dem friendly.



I dismiss all polls that are paid for by groups with an explicit political agenda, regardless of track record or ideology.

That's like throwing away the baby with the bathwater.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 01:17:44 pm »

The fact that an internal poll for a liberal anti-CU group doesn't even show O'Rourke at 40% just shows how Safe R this race is. Next.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 01:41:39 pm »

You don't have to completely ignore a poll that has a motive. For all we know this could be the state of the race. It's not a great poll with all the undecided's but it still has some value when you look at polls in the future.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 01:58:43 pm »

It's basically a push poll, read some of the questions a bit further along about how "Cruz responds to his donors" and how "Beto O'Rourke is not taking anything from superpacs", and yet they could still only get a Cruz lead of 8 in the end, also not sure why people think Beto is running a good campaign when he made a well publicized mistake in a policy not too long ago.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 02:05:46 pm »

Why do you dismiss PPP poll out of hand? Their Virginia and Alabama polls have been anything but Dem friendly.


Yeah, PPP has a decent track record.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 02:22:45 pm »

It's basically a push poll, read some of the questions a bit further along about how "Cruz responds to his donors" and how "Beto O'Rourke is not taking anything from superpacs", and yet they could still only get a Cruz lead of 8 in the end, also not sure why people think Beto is running a good campaign when he made a well publicized mistake in a policy not too long ago.

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. The horserace question was the first asked.
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2018, 02:29:47 pm »

It's basically a push poll, read some of the questions a bit further along about how "Cruz responds to his donors" and how "Beto O'Rourke is not taking anything from superpacs", and yet they could still only get a Cruz lead of 8 in the end, also not sure why people think Beto is running a good campaign when he made a well publicized mistake in a policy not too long ago.

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. The horserace question was the first asked.

Exactly.

I don't see how the sponsor of the poll automatically negates the strength of the pollster.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2018, 02:31:47 pm »

It's basically a push poll, read some of the questions a bit further along about how "Cruz responds to his donors" and how "Beto O'Rourke is not taking anything from superpacs", and yet they could still only get a Cruz lead of 8 in the end, also not sure why people think Beto is running a good campaign when he made a well publicized mistake in a policy not too long ago.

They ask a 2nd horse-race question after that, which finds O'Rourke +2, leading 43-41.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2018, 02:40:31 pm »

It's basically a push poll, read some of the questions a bit further along about how "Cruz responds to his donors" and how "Beto O'Rourke is not taking anything from superpacs", and yet they could still only get a Cruz lead of 8 in the end, also not sure why people think Beto is running a good campaign when he made a well publicized mistake in a policy not too long ago.

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. The horserace question was the first asked.
I've never even talked to you? And I still view it as something that shouldn't be trusted because they try to manipulate the sample, why would the "tax break" be such a negative impact if it has a 41/40 approval in Texas on this poll, among other things, I would like to see the crosstabs on this tbh
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2018, 05:23:45 pm »

Does PPP do any polls that aren't for organizations with an agenda these days?
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2018, 06:35:10 pm »

Does PPP do any polls that aren't for organizations with an agenda these days?

Like what, the Red Cross?
The days of free polling are over. Except for their national poll all the other are paid jobs. If Atlas Forum raises enough money I'm pretty sure they will be more than happy to do one for us.
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2018, 08:35:00 pm »

Nothing to here folks, O’Rourke is going to be O’Loser by the time this race is over
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2018, 08:53:54 pm »

Nothing to here folks, O’Rourke is going to be O’Loser by the time this race is over

Just like Doug Jones, right?
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2018, 08:57:54 pm »

Nothing to here folks, O’Rourke is going to be O’Loser by the time this race is over

Just like Doug Jones, right?

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2018, 09:18:06 pm »

I don't know whether it is a trash poll or not, but the numbers seem right.
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