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« Reply #700 on: August 14, 2018, 07:53:07 PM »

I hope Haley wins this Nomination. You win SC you usually are the GOP Nominee.
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« Reply #701 on: August 14, 2018, 08:07:00 PM »

I hope Haley wins this Nomination. You win SC you usually are the GOP Nominee.

One difference this year is the winner of SC also didn't win IA or NH as the winner of SC usually does and Haley was the Governor of SC which her the advantage too.


Super Tuesday will be bigger this year since both CA and TX are taking place on the same day
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« Reply #702 on: August 14, 2018, 08:12:54 PM »

I hope Haley wins this Nomination. You win SC you usually are the GOP Nominee.

One difference this year is the winner of SC also didn't win IA or NH as the winner of SC usually does and Haley was the Governor of SC which her the advantage too.


Super Tuesday will be bigger this year since both CA and TX are taking place on the same day

Does she have any Endorsers? I'm assuming Portman got the Endorsement of President Romney.
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« Reply #703 on: August 15, 2018, 12:47:27 PM »

I hope Haley wins this Nomination. You win SC you usually are the GOP Nominee.

One difference this year is the winner of SC also didn't win IA or NH as the winner of SC usually does and Haley was the Governor of SC which her the advantage too.


Super Tuesday will be bigger this year since both CA and TX are taking place on the same day

Does she have any Endorsers? I'm assuming Portman got the Endorsement of President Romney.


Since the Incumbent Presidents don't endorse anybody in the primary(Reagan didnt endorse Bush until he won the primary, and in OTL Obama said even if Biden ran he would have waited until the end of the primary to endorse anyone).



Haley top endorsers would be much of the foreign policy establishment, Both South Carolina's Senators, Marco Rubio, and a few others


Portman's would be much of the Business Establishment, John Kasich, Scott Walker, Bruce Rauner ,both Ohio's Senators and a few others



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« Reply #704 on: August 15, 2018, 01:57:37 PM »

Results Right Before Super Tuesday

Republicans:



Former Ambassdor Nikki Haley 63 Delegates
Vice President Rob Portman 26 Delegates
Senator Rand Paul 24 Delegates
Governor Charlie Baker 7 Delegates
Congressman Paul Ryan 6 Delegates
Senator Jeb Bush 5 Delegates

Buisnessman Donald Trump 2 Delegates


Democrats:



Joe Biden 39 Delegates + 253 Super
Gretchen Whitmer 32 Delegates+ 236 Super
Cory Booker 22 Delegates+ 167 Super
Kamala Harris 19 Delegates
Bil De Blaiso 15 Delegates + 23 Super
Mike Beebe 14 Delegates
Kirsten Gilibrand 6 Delegates
Tom Vilsack 6 Delegates
Tulsi Gabbard 2 Delegates

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« Reply #705 on: August 15, 2018, 02:13:49 PM »

This is going to be an interesting Nomination on both Sides

On the Democratic Side it will be between Biden and Booker after Super Tuesday given Bookers Strength among African Americans in the South.

On the Republican Side if Haley and Portman split Texas and California it will be interesting as well. If Portman wins both he is the Nominee I think.
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« Reply #706 on: August 15, 2018, 02:14:12 PM »

One of the best TLs here.

I'm for Harris or Whitmer. And Mike Beebe for VP.
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« Reply #707 on: August 16, 2018, 12:49:09 AM »

One of the best TLs here.

I'm for Harris or Whitmer. And Mike Beebe for VP.

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« Reply #708 on: August 16, 2018, 03:23:23 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2018, 12:07:44 AM by Old School Republican »

Super Tuesday Results:




Republicans:

Alabama: Haley 42% 39 Delegates, Portman 39% 10 Delegates, Paul 16% 1 Delegate, Trump 3%
Alaska: Paul 40% 10 Delegates, Portman 33% 8 Delegates, Haley 25% 6 Delegates, Trump 3% 1 Delegate
California: Portman 40% 105 Delegates , Haley 30% 61 Delegates , Paul 18% 6 Delegates, Trump 2%
Georgia: Haley 40% 39 Delegates, Portman 37% 31 Delegates, Paul 20% 6 Delegates
Massachussets: Portman 58% 39 Delegates, Haley 22% 3 Delegates, Paul 16%, Trump 4%
North Dakota: Portman 35% 28 Delegates , Paul 32% , Haley 29%, Trump 4%
North Carolina: Haley 45% 72 Delegates, Portman 30% , Paul 22%, Trump 3%
Oklahoma: Portman 39% 18 Delegates , Paul 30% 13 Delegates , Haley 28% 12 Delegates, Trump 2%

Tennessee: Portman 45% 34 Delegates , Haley 32% 17 Delegates , Paul 18% 7 Delegates, Trump 5%

Texas: Portman: 45% 93 Delegates, Haley 34% 59 Delegates, Paul 19% 3 Delegates , Trump 2%
Vermont: Portman 37% 13 Delegates , Paul 36% , Haley 25% , Trump 2%
Virginia : Portman 39% 19 Delegates, Haley 39% 19 Delegates , Paul 20% 10 Delegates, Trump 2% 1 Delegate

Democrats:

Alabama: Booker 38% 20 Delegates, Biden 30% 16 Delegates , Whitmer 21% 11 Delegates, De Blaiso 11% 6 Delegates
American Samoa: Whitmer 35% 3 Delegates , Biden 34% 3 Delegates, Booker 22% 2 Delegates, De Blaiso 9% 1 Delegate
California: Whitmer 34% 162 Delegates , Biden 26% 124 Delegates , De Blaiso 21% 100 Delegates, Booker 19% 89 Delegates
Georgia: Booker: 39% 40 Delegates , Biden 31% 32 Delegates, Whitmer 20% 20 Delegates, De Blaiso 10% 10 Delegates

Massachusetts: Biden 31% 28 Delegates , De Blaiso 28% 25 Delegates , Whitmer 24% 22 Delegates, Booker 17% 15 Delegates
North Dakota: Biden 40% 7 Delegates, Whitmer 29% 5 Delegates , Booker 17% 3 Delegates, De Blaiso 14% 3 Delegates
North Carolina: Biden 33% 35 Delegates, Booker 31% 33 Delegates, Whitmer 22% 24 Delegates , De Blaiso 14% 15 Delegates
Oklahoma: Whitmer 31% 12 Delegates, Biden 30% 11 Delegates, De Blaiso 23% 9 Delegates, Booker 16% 6 Delegates
Tennessee: Whitmer 33% , 22 Delegates, Biden 28% 19 Delegates, De Blaiso 21% 14 Delegates, Booker: 18% 12 Delegates

Texas: Whitmer: 35% 78 Delegates, Biden 33% 73 Delegates , Booker 21% 47 Delegates, De Blaiso 11% 24 Delegates
Vermont: De Blaiso 48% 8 Delegates , Biden 21% 3 Delegates , Whitmer 16% 2 Delegates, Booker  15% 2 Delegates
Virginia: Biden 41% 39 Delegates, Booker 29% 28 Delegates, Whitmer : 23% 22 Delegates, De Blaiso 7% 6 Delegates



Republican Delegate Count and Map:




Vice President Rob Portman 424 Delegates
Former Ambassdor Nikki Haley 390 Delegates
Senator Rand Paul 80 Delegates
Governor Charlie Baker 7 Delegates
Congressman Paul Ryan 6 Delegates
Senator Jeb Bush 5 Delegates

Buisnessman Donald Trump 4 Delegates



Democratic Delegate Count:



Joe Biden 429 Delegates + 260 Super
Gretchen Whitmer 415 Delegates+ 241 Super
Cory Booker 319 Delegates+ 157 Super
Kamala Harris 19 Delegates
Bil De Blaiso 236 Delegates + 20 Super
Mike Beebe 14 Delegates
Kirsten Gilibrand 6 Delegates
Tom Vilsack 6 Delegates
Tulsi Gabbard 2 Delegates
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« Reply #709 on: August 20, 2018, 12:17:19 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2018, 01:19:21 AM by Old School Republican »

Breaking News: Venezuela officially joins LAFTA



Wolf Blitzer: We have breaking news and that is that Venezuela has officially joined LAFTA, meaning all of Latin America with the exception of Cuba are part of the free trade agreement.

Rafael Romo: Today is a great day for the people of Venezuela and hopefully helps bring better days to the region.

Wolf Blitzer: Who do you credit for this day

Rafael Romo: The people of Venezuela for standing up to their oppressive government to restore democracy. That decision has paid of well as democracy has been restored and hopefully the economic stability of their nation soon will as well.

Blitzer: Would you say the President deserves any credit

Romo: Well he does deserve credit for not allowing the very hawkish wing of the party push him into doing a US-led invasion of Venezuela. That would have been a disaster and would have destabilized the nation even more, so his decision to not listen to them was smart. In many ways he handled it in ways how you could have seen someone like Bill Clinton would have handled it instead of handling it in a way George W Bush would have handled it.



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« Reply #710 on: August 20, 2018, 03:20:31 AM »

What is the state of public opinion on LAFTA and the other free trade agreements negotiated by the Romney administration?
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« Reply #711 on: August 20, 2018, 01:27:59 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2018, 01:32:53 PM by Old School Republican »

What is the state of public opinion on LAFTA and the other free trade agreements negotiated by the Romney administration?

Right now they are slightly popular due to the economy being in good shape but if the economy dips due to a recession(even a minor one) every little bad side effect of it will be heavily scrutinized and public opinion of them will drop .

Similarly to how NAFTA became unpopular once the 90s boom ended.


The difference is that trade deficits with a single country (China ) will be lower due to the US not being as dependent on Trade with China so side effects may not be as bad.

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« Reply #712 on: August 20, 2018, 02:05:01 PM »

Rooting for Whitmer, although Biden isn't a bad candidate.
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« Reply #713 on: August 21, 2018, 04:04:57 PM »


So he can keep getting media attention
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« Reply #714 on: August 21, 2018, 04:43:40 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2018, 02:07:24 PM by Old School Republican »

Results of Primaries between the two Super Tuesday's



Republicans:

Colorado: Haley 37% 14 Delegates , Portman 33% 12 Delegates , Paul 28% 10 Delegates, Trump 2% 1 Delegate
Hawaii: Portman 35% 7 Delegates, Haley 34% 6 Delegates, Paul 30% 6 Delegates, Trump 1%
Idaho: Paul 43% 21 Delegates, Portman 30% 7 Delegates , Haley 24% 4 Delegates, Trump 3%
Louisiana: Haley 44% 26 Delegates , Portman 35% 19 Delegates, Paul 14% 1 Delegate, Trump 3%
Maine: Paul 47% 12 Delegates, Portman 32% 7 Delegates, Haley 19% 4 Delegates, Trump 2%
Mississippi: Haley 42% 18 Delegates , Portman 40% 16 Delegates, Paul 15% 6 Delegates, Trump 3%

Democrats:

Colorado: Whitmer 35% 27 Delegates, Biden 30% 23 Delegates, Booker: 23% 18 Delegates, De Blaiso 12% 10 Delegates

Hawaii: De Blaiso 46% 12 Delegates, Biden 21% 5 Delegates, Whitmer 17% 4 Delegates, Booker 16% 4 Delegates
Idaho: Biden 39% 9 Delegates , Whitmer 30% 7 Delegates, Booker 17% 4 Delegates, De Blaiso 14% 3 Delegates
Louisiana: Booker 38% 19 Delegates, Biden 29% 15 Delegates, Whitmer 22% 11 Delegates, De Blaiso 11% 6 Delegates
Maine: Biden 33% 8 Delegates, De Blaiso 32% 8 Delegates, Whitmer 20% 5 Delegates, Booker 15% 4 Delegates
Mississippi: Booker 43% 15 Delegates, Biden 28% 10 Delegates, Whitmer 21% 8 Delegates, De Blasio 9% 3 Delegates


Republican Map and Delegate Count:




Vice President Rob Portman 490 Delegates
Former Ambassdor Nikki Haley 462 Delegates
Senator Rand Paul 136 Delegates
Governor Charlie Baker 7 Delegates
Congressman Paul Ryan 6 Delegates
Senator Jeb Bush 5 Delegates

Buisnessman Donald Trump 5 Delegates


Democratic Map and Delegate Count:



Former Vice President Joe Biden 499 Delegates + 263 Super
Governor Gretchen Whitmer 477 Delegates+ 242 Super
Senator Cory Booker 383 Delegates+ 156 Super
Mayor Bil De Blaiso 278 Delegates + 20 Super
Senator Kamala Harris 19 Delegates
Former Governor Mike Beebe 14 Delegates
Senator Kirsten Gilibrand 6 Delegates
Former Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack 6 Delegates
Congresswomen Tulsi Gabbard 2 Delegates
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« Reply #715 on: August 22, 2018, 03:27:51 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2018, 09:57:28 PM by Old School Republican »

Portman Sweeps Super Tuesday 2 including narrowly defeating Haley in Winner Take All Florida. On the Democratic Side Whitmer also sweeps primaries including narrow victories over Biden in Florida and Minnesota. Booker Drops out of the Race after disappointing night





Republicans:

Florida: Portman 40% 99 Delegates , Haley 39% , Paul 17%, Trump 4%
Illionis: Portman 43% 54 Delegates, Haley 34% 9 Delegates, Paul 21% 6 Delegates, Trump 3%
Michigan: Portman 42% 28 Delegates , Haley 36% 20 Delegates , Paul 20% 11 Delegates, Trump 2%
Minnesota: Portman 37% 15 Delegates , Paul 32% 12 Delegates, Haley 29% 11 Delegates, Trump 2%
Missouri: Portman 45% 42 Delegates , Haley 33% 10 Delegates, Paul 19%, Trump 3%
Ohio: Portman 58% 66 Delegates , Haley 22%, Paul 17% , Trump 3%
Wisconsin: Portman 42% 31 Delegates, Haley 37% 11 Delegates , Paul 19%, Trump 2%



Democrats:

Florida: Whitmer 34% 73 Delegates, Biden 33% 72 Delegates, De Blaiso 18% 39 Delegates, Booker 15% 30 Delegates
Illionis: Whitmer 37% 58 Delegates, Biden 30% 47 Delegates, Booker 23% 36 Delegates, De Blasio 10% 16 Delegates
Michigan: Whitmer 58% 75 Delegates, Biden 21% 27 Delegates, Booker 11% 14 Delegates, De Blaiso 10% 13 Delegates
Minnesota: Whitmer: 35% 27 Delegates, Biden 34% 26 Delegates, De Blaiso 22% 17 Delegates, Booker 9% 7 Delegates
Missouri: Whitmer 37% 26 Delegates, Biden 33% 23 Delegates, Booker 17% 12 Delegates, De Blaiso 13% 10 Delegates
Ohio: Whitmer 36% 51 Delegates, Biden 30% 43 Delegates, Booker 20% 29 Delegates, De Blaiso 14% 19 Delegates
Wisconsin: Whitmer 38% 33 Delegates, Biden 29% 25 Delegates, De Blaiso 17% 15 Delegates , Booker 16% 13 Delegates


Republican Map and Delegate Count:




Vice President Rob Portman 825 Delegates
Former Ambassdor Nikki Haley 524 Delegates
Senator Rand Paul 164 Delegates
Governor Charlie Baker 7 Delegates
Congressman Paul Ryan 6 Delegates
Senator Jeb Bush 5 Delegates

Buisnessman Donald Trump 5 Delegates


Democratic Map and Delegate Count:



Governor Gretchen Whitmer 820 Delegates+ 332 Super
Former Vice President Joe Biden 762 Delegates + 313 Super
Senator Cory Booker 526 Delegates
Mayor Bil De Blaiso 407 Delegates + 21 Super
Senator Kamala Harris 19 Delegates
Former Governor Mike Beebe 14 Delegates
Senator Kirsten Gilibrand 6 Delegates
Former Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack 6 Delegates
Congresswomen Tulsi Gabbard 2 Delegates
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« Reply #716 on: August 22, 2018, 05:52:34 PM »

That's it then.

Portman vs Whitmer.
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« Reply #717 on: August 23, 2018, 04:49:17 AM »

My guess is that Portman is likely to offer Haley the Vice-presidential slot, as for Whitmer her only goal is to make a selection that upsets the least number of voter's. Going with De Blasio or Booker makes no sense. She can win most of the East coast, perhaps she should go with Louisiana's Edwards, she could create a situation where Portman would need Haley to protect his southern flank. Otherwise Portman could go with Charlie Baker of Massachusetts just to create mischief for a Whitmer campaign. Portman can wait until he knows the identity of Whitmer's Vice-presidential choice. He might make a secret deal with Haley to give her the State Department and give Baker the vice-presidency, suddenly Whitmer has a two-flank campaign to wage. She has to spend a good deal of her time in the East. Portman can camp out on the West coast or ensure that Edwards is at best neutralized by carpet bombing the South. We will see what happens as the primaries pan out. But my guess it's either a Portman-Haley or a Portman-Baker vs. Whitmer-Edwards face-off.
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« Reply #718 on: August 23, 2018, 06:16:53 AM »

PRESIDENT PORTMAN WOULD BE AMAZING
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« Reply #719 on: August 23, 2018, 10:15:36 AM »

PRESIDENT PORTMAN WOULD BE AMAZING
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« Reply #720 on: August 23, 2018, 12:00:23 PM »

Its pretty much over for Biden in this timeline. Whitmer/Beebe would be a pretty good ticket, but I think she picks someone who didn't run in the primaries. Whitmer/Nunn would bring a good geographic balance to the ticket, though a double woman ticket might bring its own problems.
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« Reply #721 on: August 24, 2018, 06:06:48 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2018, 06:13:16 PM by Old School Republican »

State of the Race so far and look ahead to the general election



Wolf Blitzer: So after tonight is the Republican nomination over

John King: Well currently Vice President Portman has a 301 delegate lead and if we had the 57 from Indiana which he very likely will win Ambassador Haley will have to make up a 358 Delegate Lead from the remaining states and with the Vice President leading in all the North Eastern states including New York and Pennsylvania , I would say the nomination is all but wrapped up . I though would wait until New York to officially declare things over because if Mrs.Haley wins that she will then have an outside shot of winning.

Wolf: What about the Democrats

King: Well Governor Whitmer currently has a 58 delegate lead and with the North Eastern primaries having tongs of delegates I would say while Whitmer is the favorite its not over yet. One good news for the Democrats though is both Governor Whitmer and Vice President Biden announced that neither of them will take this to the convention and will endorse each other depending on who has more pledged delegates at the end of the primaries.

Wolf: Anderson Back to you

Cooper: So which Democrats do you think has a better chance of winning the General

Borger: I definitely think Governor Whitmer has the better chance of winning the election. The reason is if Biden gets the nomination its very likely he can collapse like Dukakis did because of the fact that the election campaign would be more of a Debate over the Obama years vs the Romney years instead of a debate of the future, and more than 2/3 of Americans believe that nation is better of than it was 8 years ago would make it very easy for Portman to win. Now I believe he is the slight favorite against Governor Whitmer too because of the simple fact that this election is taking place in a time of peace and prosperity but Governor Whitmer has a better chance of winning as she can make the election a debate about the future , and compete in Appalachia, parts of the border states and even parts of the upper south.

Van Jones: I agree and the fact is there have been 3 prior elections since World War Two similar to this one : 1960,1988 and 2000 and in two of those cases the incumbent party lost despite conditions favoring them. Also in both those cases they won because they made the debate about the future instead of a debate over the incumbent President's time in office. In 1988, on the other hand, the debate more became on Reagan's record and Dukakis's gubernatorial record instead of a debate about their proposed policies and due to that the conditions swept the incumbent party back into power. With Whitmer, I think there is a better chance for a repeat of 1960 and 2000 , while with Biden you risk a repeat of 1988.

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« Reply #722 on: August 24, 2018, 07:02:09 PM »

Enjoying this. Hope this continue into the 2020s
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« Reply #723 on: August 25, 2018, 03:00:13 AM »

Enjoying this. Hope this continue into the 2020s

What I a am currently planning to do , is give summaries of the next couple of Presidencies after Romney. So kind of like an Epilogue


 
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« Reply #724 on: August 26, 2018, 03:18:44 AM »

Vice President Portman becomes the Presumptive Nominee after wins in Arizona , New Jersey, New York and Former Ambassador Haley decision to drop out of the race and endorse him after loses in those 3 states. Donald Trump also drops out after an embarrassing performance. On the Democratic side Governor Whitmer wins Arizona and New Jersey while Biden pulls of an extremely narrow victory in New York.



Republicans:

Arizona: Portman 39% 58 Delegates, Haley 30%, Paul 29%, Trump 2%
New Jersey: Portman 50% 51 Delegates , Haley 27%, Paul 20%, Trump 3%
New York: Portman 47% 85 Delegates, Haley 25% 10 Delegates, Paul 21%, Trump 7%



Democrats:

Arizona: Whitmer 48% 36 Delegates, Biden 35% 26 Delegates, De Blaiso 17% 13 Delegates
New Jersey: Whitmer 44% 56 Delegates, Biden 36% 45 Delegates, De Blaiso 20% 25 Delegates

New York: Biden 37% 92 Delegates, Whitmer 37% 91 Delegates, De Blasio 26% 64 Delegates


Republican Map and Delegate Count:




Vice President Rob Portman 1019 Delegates
Former Ambassdor Nikki Haley 534 Delegates
Senator Rand Paul 164 Delegates
Governor Charlie Baker 7 Delegates
Congressman Paul Ryan 6 Delegates
Senator Jeb Bush 5 Delegates

Buisnessman Donald Trump 5 Delegates

Democratic Map and Delegate Count:



Governor Gretchen Whitmer 1003 Delegates+ 349 Super
Former Vice President Joe Biden 925 Delegates + 296 Super
Senator Cory Booker 526 Delegates
Mayor Bil De Blaiso 509 Delegates + 21 Super
Senator Kamala Harris 19 Delegates
Former Governor Mike Beebe 14 Delegates
Senator Kirsten Gilibrand 6 Delegates
Former Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack 6 Delegates
Congresswomen Tulsi Gabbard 2 Delegates
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