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« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2018, 04:37:05 PM »

Hallam students voted Green and Uni students voted Lib Dem #hottake
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« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2018, 01:38:12 AM »


The city at war over its trees - BBC News

Sheffield City Council is carrying out a programme of tree felling as a part of a £2.2bn contract with private firm Amey.
The move has prompted an angry response from some parts of the community but others want the work to go ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUT5Al1JdPQ

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Perhaps this might've hurt Labour ?

Without a doubt, at least in the areas the Greens did well in and the adjacent Hallam wards such as Crookes & Crosspool and Ecclesall.  The Green councillor who won by a mile in Nether Edge & Sharrow is heavily involved in the campaign, and a lot of people feel the Council have been bullying her.

BTW next door, in Barnsley, the Lib Dems won a ward (Penistone West) where they hadn't even stood since 2012 and not before then since 2004; this was the first Lib Dem win in Barnsley since 2008.  The Lib Dems are of course known for occasional spectacular wins in unexpected places, but this was odd because it was a Labour/Tory marginal, so it appears that they managed to ambush both at the same time.  The winning candidate was also the Lib Dem candidate in the South Yorkshire mayoral election.
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« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2018, 03:55:47 AM »

Are Labour now in control of every borough of both Liverpool and greater Manchester?
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« Reply #103 on: May 05, 2018, 04:32:53 AM »

No, Trafford is No Overall Control with Labour the largest party by one seat.
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« Reply #104 on: May 05, 2018, 08:19:07 AM »

No, Trafford is No Overall Control with Labour the largest party by one seat.

Stockport is also still NOC, although Labour is the largest party now (taking the lead from the Lib Dems).
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« Reply #105 on: May 05, 2018, 09:34:11 AM »

A bit of a general question here.

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?
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« Reply #106 on: May 05, 2018, 11:10:12 AM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.
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« Reply #107 on: May 05, 2018, 11:15:20 AM »

Why are the greens so strong in Solihull? Brighton I understand, but Solihull strikes me as a more generic "affluent" suburb within the sort of trendiness or student presence that normally signifies green strength.
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« Reply #108 on: May 05, 2018, 11:31:56 AM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.

About Lab/Con coalitions, iirc these elecions were England-only. Still, has a mechanic developed in Scotland where the nationalist-unionist axis is stronger than the left right one?

Are there any scottish councils with Labour-Tory-Lib Dem unionist coalitions like we often get here in the Basque Country? (and probably will start getting in Catalonia soon as well)
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« Reply #109 on: May 05, 2018, 11:50:35 AM »

The BBC projected national vote share is CON 35 LAB 35 LD 16.  I guess that is fairly in line with a small CON national lead in the polls given the fact that the areas that voted seems to have trended LAB  since 2014.
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« Reply #110 on: May 05, 2018, 12:22:00 PM »

Why are the greens so strong in Solihull? Brighton I understand, but Solihull strikes me as a more generic "affluent" suburb within the sort of trendiness or student presence that normally signifies green strength.

Local anti-conservative protest party of choice, aided by the moribund ineptitude of the local Labour Party, the damage done to the LibDem brand in that respect by the Coalition and the collapse of the BNP. It doesn't translate over into GE votes. Also, proximity to Birmingham tends to make places have mad local politics that makes little sense and don't line up to GE voting.
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« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2018, 04:26:04 PM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.

About Lab/Con coalitions, iirc these elecions were England-only. Still, has a mechanic developed in Scotland where the nationalist-unionist axis is stronger than the left right one?

Are there any scottish councils with Labour-Tory-Lib Dem unionist coalitions like we often get here in the Basque Country? (and probably will start getting in Catalonia soon as well)

I do vaguely recall that there have been Lab/Con anti-SNP coalitions in Scotland in local elections before. Not sure there are any tri-party coalitions in Scotland but it seems possible.
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« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2018, 01:28:01 AM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.

About Lab/Con coalitions, iirc these elecions were England-only. Still, has a mechanic developed in Scotland where the nationalist-unionist axis is stronger than the left right one?

Are there any scottish councils with Labour-Tory-Lib Dem unionist coalitions like we often get here in the Basque Country? (and probably will start getting in Catalonia soon as well)

I do vaguely recall that there have been Lab/Con anti-SNP coalitions in Scotland in local elections before. Not sure there are any tri-party coalitions in Scotland but it seems possible.
East Dunbartonshire was LD/Lab/Con after the 2012 locals, IIRC.
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« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2018, 01:10:57 PM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.

About Lab/Con coalitions, iirc these elecions were England-only. Still, has a mechanic developed in Scotland where the nationalist-unionist axis is stronger than the left right one?

Are there any scottish councils with Labour-Tory-Lib Dem unionist coalitions like we often get here in the Basque Country? (and probably will start getting in Catalonia soon as well)

I do vaguely recall that there have been Lab/Con anti-SNP coalitions in Scotland in local elections before. Not sure there are any tri-party coalitions in Scotland but it seems possible.

Not sure but a Tory-Labour-UKIP (lol) administration ran Portsmouth for a time overthrowing governing LDs.
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« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2018, 06:51:36 PM »

Just reading through some of the media headlines, and some of the articles are again trying to smear Corbyn.

To the best i can tell, Labour retained a hold on 74 councils, and got 77 councillors elected, as well as holding on to the mayoralties up for election and their vote shot up by 8%. Meanwhile, the Tories have lost control of 3 councils and 33 of their councillors are fresh out of a job.

How exactly was it a bad night for Labour? Yes they did fall short of expectations, but so did May last year.
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« Reply #115 on: May 07, 2018, 07:46:05 PM »

When a council is NOC, does the resulting coalition generally form along ideological lines (Con/UKIP vs Lab/LD/Grn) or have there been left-right coalitions in the past?

Labour/Tory coalitions are very rare, other than that, as a general rule, all things are possible and ideology rarely comes into it.

About Lab/Con coalitions, iirc these elecions were England-only. Still, has a mechanic developed in Scotland where the nationalist-unionist axis is stronger than the left right one?

Are there any scottish councils with Labour-Tory-Lib Dem unionist coalitions like we often get here in the Basque Country? (and probably will start getting in Catalonia soon as well)

I do vaguely recall that there have been Lab/Con anti-SNP coalitions in Scotland in local elections before. Not sure there are any tri-party coalitions in Scotland but it seems possible.

Not sure but a Tory-Labour-UKIP (lol) administration ran Portsmouth for a time overthrowing governing LDs.

Now that I think about it, pretty sure Portsmouth was a Con/Lab coalition (with the LDs as opposition) up until this election. Not sure if anything changed as a result of the election.
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« Reply #116 on: May 08, 2018, 01:52:40 AM »

Just reading through some of the media headlines, and some of the articles are again trying to smear Corbyn.

To the best i can tell, Labour retained a hold on 74 councils, and got 77 councillors elected, as well as holding on to the mayoralties up for election and their vote shot up by 8%. Meanwhile, the Tories have lost control of 3 councils and 33 of their councillors are fresh out of a job.

How exactly was it a bad night for Labour? Yes they did fall short of expectations, but so did May last year.

Tyranny of expectations, and yes the media also victimised Theresa May for the entire second half of 2017. But also, the performance was not consistent with a Labour overall majority.
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« Reply #117 on: May 08, 2018, 07:37:07 PM »



Comedy turnouts and the shift to single and double member wards caused some pretty absurd results, but that's Birmingham for you.
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« Reply #118 on: May 09, 2018, 02:11:55 AM »

Thank you!
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« Reply #119 on: May 15, 2018, 02:24:46 PM »

Thank you!
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« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2018, 03:42:51 PM »

Hounslow is my favourite borough map tbh. Wonder what the difference between Chiswick and the rest of the borough is? Tongue
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« Reply #121 on: May 19, 2018, 05:45:35 PM »

Like a lot of humdrum middle ring suburban areas in London it has become less white and more working class.
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« Reply #122 on: May 21, 2018, 07:11:41 PM »

Hounslow is my favourite borough map tbh. Wonder what the difference between Chiswick and the rest of the borough is? Tongue

Hounslow and Haringey largely reflect ethnic bloc voting by the White British minority. And also, see above, esp for Hounslow in the last 30 years, hugely so.
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