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Question: In your view, who is the biggest "Sacrificial Lamb" Presidential candidate?
#1Al Smith 1928  
#2Herbert Hoover 1932  
#3Alf Landon 1936  
#4Wendell Willkie 1940  
#5Adlai Stevenson 1952  
#6Adlai Stevenson 1956  
#7Barry Goldwater 1964  
#8George McGovern 1972  
#9Jimmy Carter 1980  
#10Walter Mondale 1984  
#11Other, please specify  
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 06:27:58 pm »

Alton B. Parker.

The sheer absurdity is unmatched, of nominating a judge who barely even wanted to run for the job and whod hardly made a peep about national politics before he was nominated.

The even funnier part is that he probably couldve done a decent job.

Agreed lol
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2019, 07:07:38 am »

Mondale, America wasnt gonna vote Reagan out in Cold War era. Iran Contra came in 1986
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2019, 09:02:22 am »

Smith because America wasn't ready for a Catholic.

I don't think that's the main factor. For one, he didn't even want to run. Second, you DO know who he was running against, right?
What I meant is that the only reason the Dixiecrats let him get nominated was because they knew that Hoover was unbeatable.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2019, 03:34:26 am »

Mondale said himself after the whole "My Opponents Youth and Inexperience" he knew he had no chance.

Poor guy is the only person to win a race in all 50 states (1984 and 2002 MN Senate election)
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2019, 04:00:55 am »

For Hoover 1932 and Carter 1980, I think "drank a poisoned chalice 4 years earlier" would be a better description than "sacrificial lamb". "Sacrificial lamb" means "if their party had a chance of winning the general, they wouldn't have been nominated."
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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2019, 03:35:30 am »

Dole 1996 imo
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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2019, 08:01:08 am »

Charles Pinckney and the fading Federalists feeble run against Jefferson's re-election. The 1804 election is such a snoozefest that it really is only remembered for being the backdrop for Burr shooting Hamilton. In fact the Federalists kind of defined useless opposition: without their big names they were laughably useless at presenting challenges: see also them shrugging their shoulders and selecting Rufus King against Monroe because literally nobody else would step up.
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2019, 11:47:59 pm »

if by sacrificial lamb you mean someone who ran against a popular president with whom he had no chance of beating, I'm going to go with Walter Mondale.

This.

Also...

Mondale said himself after the whole "My Opponents Youth and Inexperience" he knew he had no chance.

Poor guy is the only person to win lose a race in all 50 states (1984 and 2002 MN Senate election)
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2019, 10:03:15 am »

I'd also argue that James Cox in 1920 and John W. Davis in 1924 were sacrificial lambs.
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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2019, 01:05:27 pm »

John Kerry was a "sacrificial lamb", the Dems wanted to win, but had Kerry been president, he would have done better on Katrina, but the Great Recession happened on "Dubya" watch.  Romney would have been elected president in 2008, had Kerry been president under the Great Recession.

But, Gephardt, not Edwards, with strong union support, would have clinched OH, and NM and IA for Kerry, Edwards was not a good Veep pick, but a stronger presidential candidate.
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