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« on: January 22, 2018, 06:24:53 pm »

(Given Atlas demographics, I expect most opinions to be from a Western/American perspective, though other perspectives are welcome. I also moved it here from Int'l Discussion because I think the nature of the question suits this section more.)

Both countries clearly have PR issues. But both countries have things going for them (unlike, say, North Korea, which is almost universally hated), so opinions should be interesting.

On one hand, there's definitely lots of hate for China due to its government, threat to American hegemony, and lots of other reasons. But on the other hand, China has plenty of things going for it; it's powerful enough to be "untouchable," and its cultural history and economic growth give it legitimacy to many observers. Its economic activities have also built up pro-China support outside the West.

Israel has a government and geopolitical alignment that's close to that of America and its allies, so in theory most Westeners would love it. But Israel's very existence is a source of hatred from the Muslim world, and its relationship with Palestine has caused very vocal stirs even in the West. (In fact, one of the reasons I chose these two countries is because of how similar I think attitudes on the Tibet and Palestine issues are.)

So my own conclusion:
- Overall more hated: Israel
- More hated in the West: China
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 10:42:37 pm »

are you asking who I hate more or who "the world" hates more?
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 10:19:20 am »

Israel is more hated, but China obviously deserves to be more hated.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 12:48:13 pm »

Only Israel has a strong coterie of ideological defenders with power in the West (AIPAC). Zionism is considered a legitimate ideology in the West, "a harmonious society" certainly is not.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 02:58:03 pm »

are you asking who I hate more or who "the world" hates more?
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2018, 11:56:19 am »

I am not a fan of the Chinese right now. They are crossing Vietnamís waters in the South China Sea and building artificial bases in Hoang Sa and Truong Sa.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 06:31:17 pm »

Personally, I'm not a fan of either the Chinese or Israeli governments.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 11:34:41 am »

Israel is more hated, but China obviously deserves to be more hated.
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