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« on: February 18, 2018, 07:34:40 PM »

All independent cities in Virginia were merged into the counties that they're located in/closest to?

I mean in terms of actual Presidential elections. say that there were no independent cities in VA in 2016 - how would this change the map?
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 08:45:19 PM »

Ones that can easily be combined with nearby counties will be. Ones that can't (mostly in the Hampton Roads area, like VA Beach, etc.) will be left as a "county".
Norton→Wise
Bristol→Washington
Galax→Carroll
Radford→Montgomery
Roanoke→Roanoke
Salem→Roanoke
Martinsville→Henry
Danville→Pittsylvania
Clifton Forge→Alleghany
Covington→Alleghany
Buena Vista→Rockbridge
Lexington→Rockbridge
Lynchburg→Campbell
Staunton→Augusta
Waynesboro→Augusta
Harrisonburg→Rockingham
Charlottesville→Ablemarle
Winchester→Frederick
Alexandria→Fairfax
Fairfax→Fairfax
Falls Church→Fairfax
Manassas→Prince William
Manassas Park→Prince William
Fredericksburg→Spotsylvania
Richmond→Henrico
Colonial Heights→Chesterfield
Petersburg→Dinwiddie
Hopewell→Prince George
Emporia→Greensville
Franklin→Southampton
Williamsburg→James City
Poquoson→York

New "Counties":
Combined Hampton/Newport News
Suffolk (alone)
Combined Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake
Virginia Beach (alone)

Out of these, the results of many wouldn't be changed as the county and city result are the same.

If the county and city results were different, I'll mark – even if the overall result didn't change.

Trump/Trump
Alleghany
Augusta
Campbell
Carroll
Chesterfield
Frederick (Diff)
Henry (Diff)
Pittsylvania (Diff)
Prince George (Diff)
Roanoke (Diff)
Rockbridge (Diff)
Rockingham (Diff)
Southampton (Diff)
Spotsylvania (Diff)
Virginia Beach
Washington
Wise
York

Clinton/Clinton
Ablemarle
Fairfax
Greensville
Hampton/Newport News
Henrico
Montgomery
Prince William
Suffolk

Changed
Chesapeake-Norfolk-Portsmouth (Mixed to Clinton)
Dinwiddie (Trump to Clinton)
James City (Trump to Clinton)

So really, not much of a change.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2018, 09:16:45 PM »

Ones that can easily be combined with nearby counties will be. Ones that can't (mostly in the Hampton Roads area, like VA Beach, etc.) will be left as a "county".
Norton→Wise
Bristol→Washington
Galax→Carroll
Radford→Montgomery
Roanoke→Roanoke
Salem→Roanoke
Martinsville→Henry
Danville→Pittsylvania
Clifton Forge→Alleghany
Covington→Alleghany
Buena Vista→Rockbridge
Lexington→Rockbridge
Lynchburg→Campbell
Staunton→Augusta
Waynesboro→Augusta
Harrisonburg→Rockingham
Charlottesville→Ablemarle
Winchester→Frederick
Alexandria→Fairfax
Fairfax→Fairfax
Falls Church→Fairfax
Manassas→Prince William
Manassas Park→Prince William
Fredericksburg→Spotsylvania
Richmond→Henrico
Colonial Heights→Chesterfield
Petersburg→Dinwiddie
Hopewell→Prince George
Emporia→Greensville
Franklin→Southampton
Williamsburg→James City
Poquoson→York

New "Counties":
Combined Hampton/Newport News
Suffolk (alone)
Combined Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake
Virginia Beach (alone)

Out of these, the results of many wouldn't be changed as the county and city result are the same.

If the county and city results were different, I'll mark – even if the overall result didn't change.

Trump/Trump
Alleghany
Augusta
Campbell
Carroll
Chesterfield
Frederick (Diff)
Henry (Diff)
Pittsylvania (Diff)
Prince George (Diff)
Roanoke (Diff)
Rockbridge (Diff)
Rockingham (Diff)
Southampton (Diff)
Spotsylvania (Diff)
Virginia Beach
Washington
Wise
York

Clinton/Clinton
Ablemarle
Fairfax
Greensville
Hampton/Newport News
Henrico
Montgomery
Prince William
Suffolk

Changed
Chesapeake-Norfolk-Portsmouth (Mixed to Clinton)
Dinwiddie (Trump to Clinton)
James City (Trump to Clinton)

So really, not much of a change.

FYI, Alexandria would most certainly become part of Arlington rather than Fairfax. Arlington and Alexandria were originally one county ("Alexandria County") until the 1930s, and they are still extremely closely linked in terms of infrastructure and politics (Alexandria's D vs. R split is literally identical to Arlington's). Not to mention they were both parts of the original square of Washington, D.C. before the Virginia side was retroceded.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 07:29:23 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2018, 07:37:37 AM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 11:22:58 AM »

Ones that can easily be combined with nearby counties will be. Ones that can't (mostly in the Hampton Roads area, like VA Beach, etc.) will be left as a "county".

New "Counties":
Combined Hampton/Newport News
Suffolk (alone)
Combined Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake
Virginia Beach (alone)
Historically, Hampton and Newport News were different counties.

Newport News was in Warwick County, before it became an independent city. The remainder of Warwick County became Warwick City in 1952, and Warwick City and Newport News merged in 1958. Newport News also annexed a bit of Elizabeth City County.

Hampton was in Elizabeth City County (like James City, Elizabeth City included the word "city" in its name even though it was more like a county). Hampton, the incorporated city of Phoebus, and the remainder of Elizabeth City consolidated in 1952.

Norfolk and Portsmouth were formed from Norfolk County. In 1963, the independent city of South Norfolk consolidated with the remainder of the county to form the city of Chesapeake. This consolidation was in part to block annexation by Norfolk (annexation by independent cities removed territory, tax base, and facilities from the county). Since 1990, Virginia has had a never ending moratorium on annexations by independent cities. In addition, more densely settled counties, or those that provide urban services can block annexation.

Virginia Beach became an independent city in 1952, and then annexed the remainder of Princess Anne County in 1963. This was in part to block Norfolk, which had annexed eastward into Princess Anne.

Suffolk was formed in 1974 from the merger of Suffolk city and Nansemond city. Nansemond city had itself been formed from the bulk of Nansemond County in 1972.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 11:51:27 AM »

Ah, not much of a difference. that's a very cool map though!
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 03:46:10 PM »


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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 05:14:51 PM »

Now I'm curious what 2000-2012 would look like without independent cities.
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