Fair Redistricting (PA aftermath)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I would like to be on the panel. As a Dem or as an Indy, either one is fine.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Why not both? I.e. the public can propose a map but the panel can also draw and choose a map.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

We should start off in New England.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I think we should let LimoLiberal take the Republican spot and Solid take a Democratic one.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

a possible Maine plan

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I would rather switch compactness and representativeness. Otherwise, the list looks good enough, albeit we should edit number 4 to be "small and reasonable and as few as is sensible"

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

a possible Maine plan

This is why I asked about criteria. One might be what software can be used; for instance all plans must be submitted on DRA. TT's plan using the KHW app is whole county only, and in his case has a population range of 2.39%. That's pretty large, and how to handle population inequality is one of the most fundamental factors. Maybe the panel is less concerned with SCOTUS and more about ease of submission.

My recommendation is that the panel adopt its rules for submitting plans and the factors on which plans will be judged before starting on any states.

I lack DRA access, though I do have maps from when I did have access. Not for all states though, and most of the maps I have saved are gerrymanders.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I would rather switch compactness and representativeness. Otherwise, the list looks good enough, albeit we should edit number 4 to be "small and reasonable and as few as is sensible"

alright that sounds good I’ll change it, but “small and reasonable and as few as is sensible” is very redundant

It's to emphasize the need to reduce the number of county splits.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

So what state do we want to start with?

we could do ME —> work southwest toward CA
or
smallest —> largest

ME, NH, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, MD, VA, NC, WV, SC, OH, GA, FL, MI, IN, KY, TN, AL, WI, IL, MS, MO to LA, NE to TX, CO, NM, ID, UT, AZ, NV, WA to CA, then HI?
Or we could do this order but exclude states with more than 20 CDs, doing them all last.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What is the limit on deviation?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Accommodation of some sort is necessary for me since I lack DRA access.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

First plan:
ME-01: York, Cumberland, Sagadhoc, Lincoln, Androscoggin + Litchfield and Monmouth in Kennebec County
663,985
ME-02: Everything else, including the rest of Kennebec County
664,376

Second plan:
ME-01: York, Cumberland, Androscoggin, Oxford, all of Franklin except New Sharon, Farmington, Industry, New Vineyard, and Wyman
664,176
ME-02: everything else, including New Sharon, Farmington, Industry, New Vineyard, and Wyman
664,185
No town splits in either plan

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Accommodation of some sort is necessary for me since I lack DRA access.

If you want I can draw it on DRA for you after you do it on KHW. Just let me know which counties you want to split/pick up for population equality. I’d draw those in the way that idealizes compactness in a dem way since you’re playing the Dems role

Thanks.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

We should either not have VRA for purpose of this exercise, or have it be a factor that is deemphasized, but still be present.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I guess then we should either a) ditch VRA entirely or b) take a creative, more simple third route - like, say, deemphasizing it but supporting coalition districts as part of the criteria.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I much prefer for two plans to be permitted per panelist, not just one.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I much prefer for two plans to be permitted per panelist, not just one.

I will take that as a proposed amendment that can be voted on by the panel. To be clear - you are drawing a distinction between the number of plans a panelist can submit compared to the number from other posters. This is not about the step when plans are put into the final pool for voting.

I don't have an opinion on how many plans other posters can submit, not yet anyway. But I think the way we have been moving so far suggests two is the maximum a panelist can submit, not one.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I am a bit confused about what how we are proceeding now in regards to procedures. Could someone in the know give me a rundown?
The impression I get is that we've split the US into 4 bits and we're running those concurrently?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I am a bit confused about what how we are proceeding now in regards to procedures. Could someone in the know give me a rundown?
The impression I get is that we've split the US into 4 bits and we're running those concurrently?

We’re running several at the same time I think just to save time. We just need your vote on the NH one in the north east thread and I think we’re allowed to start on the first States in the other regions

Where are all the NH maps posted in a row, a single post, to make it more obvious what we're voting for?