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« Reply #200 on: March 11, 2018, 09:38:07 PM »
« edited: March 12, 2018, 03:04:33 AM by jimrtex »

Massachusetts has 13 regions. The Metropolitan Area Planning Council (101 towns and cities around Boston is divided into 9 Subregions).



The Metro Area Planning Council has a population equivalent to 4.346 districts. We can rough out the rest of the state into 5 areas.

West: Berkshire, Pioneer Valley, Franklin: 1.132. These three regions correspond strictly to the county boundaries, with Hampden and Hampshire combined in Pioneer Valley.

Central: Central Massachusetts and Montachusett: 1.090. These correspond roughly to Worcester County, but there are some tweaks along the eastern edge.

Northern: Merrimack Valley and Northern Middlesex: 0.853.

Southeastern: Southeastern 0.848.

South Coast: Old Colony, Cape Cod, Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket.

I want to preserve areas such as Brockton, Lowell, Fitchburg as being outside the Boston orbit, so that you don't end up with six Boston-centric districts.

The two western areas have a surplus, while the southeastern and northern have a deficit. Some of the surplus can be delivered from the Fitchburg and Leominster area to the Northern region. Some can be delivered to the Southeastern region from the southeastern part of Worcester county, creating a district that wraps around Rhode Island. The South Coast region will have to extend into the South Shore.

Boston has a population equivalent to 0.849 districts. To avoid splitting cities or towns, more emphasis will be given to population matching than would otherwise be done.



This is the first cut.



MA-1 (West) 1.001
MA-3 (North) 0.998
MA-4 (Southeast) 1.000
MA-5 (South Coast) 0.999

are close to the ideal

MA-2 (Central) 1.027

needs a bit more trimming.

MA-2 added some towns in eastern Hampden and Hampshire, trying to avoid cutting deep into the Springfield area, but this is not 100% avoidable. You could add in Franklin, but that would take all of the county. This version of MA-1 gives more of a balance between the Springfield area and the more rural Berkshire and Franklin.

MA-3 added Fitchburg and Leominster, and had to give up a couple of towns in Essex. At least this will provide a unique look to my map.

MA-4 added a few towns in extreme southwestern Norfolk and southeastern Worcester. They are mainly to add population based on proximity. These areas are not essential to a Worcester-based or Boston-based district, but definitely peripheral. The people here might know where Attleboro is.

MA-5 added the remainder of Plymouth and some towns in Norfolk. I stopped before Weymouth  because it had too much population (and was of a size to indicate that it was more suburban). The towns further west are a better fit for Brockton.

I'm not really happy how the northern suburban district is looking, so it is likely that I will end up with a Boston seat in the center, and northeast, northwest, and southwest districts.



This is the final map.



Metro Boston Detail



MA-9 is Boston, Chelsea because of its large minority population, Winthrop because Boston isolates it, and Brookline because it is the right size and it belongs with Boston anyway.

I reworked MA-6 and MA-8 into a northeast suburban and northwestern district, and made some tweaks elsewhere for population balance and appearance.



Statistics;

MA-1 (Western, Springfield, Chicopee, Pittsfield, Holyoke, Westfield) +0.10%, D+17.40, A 79, H 12, B 5, As 2, O 1.

MA-2 (Central, Worcester) -0.01%, D+3.11, A 85, H 7, As 4, B 3, O 1.

MA-3 (Northern, Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill, Metheun, Leominster) +0.02%, D+5.53, A 76, H 14, As 6, B 2, O 1.

MA-4 (Southeast, New Bedford, Fall River, Taunton, Attleboro) +0.02%, D+14.80, A 76, B 7, H 7, As 7, O 3.

MA-5 (South Coast, Brockton, Plymouth, Barnstable) -0.06%, D+4.01, A 87, B 5, O 3, H 3, As 1.

MA-6 (Northeast Suburbs, Lynn, Malden, Medford, Revere, Peabody) -0.48%, D+10.61, A79, H 9, As 5, B 5, O 2.

MA-7 (Southwest Suburbs, Quincy, Framingham, Weymouth, Marlborough) -0.00%, D+10.78, A 80, As 8, B 5, H 4, O 3.

MA-8 (Northwest Suburbs, Cambridge, Newton, Somerville, Waltham, Arlington) +0.24%. D+21.17, A 79, As 10, H 5, B 4, O 2.

MA-9 (Boston, Brookline, Chelsea, Winthrop) +0.20%, D+30.61, A 54, B 18, H 16, As 9, O 3.

MA-9 is majority minority total population.

Standard Deviation 0.19%.
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« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »
« Edited: March 15, 2018, 11:50:15 AM by cvparty »

Hey everyone, just a reminder that New Jersey has a total of 9 million people in only 21 counties. Beware of being fanatical about *muh county lines*...
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« Reply #202 on: March 15, 2018, 01:51:04 PM »

Hey everyone, just a reminder that New Jersey has a total of 9 million people in only 21 counties. Beware of being fanatical about *muh county lines*...

Municipalities are pretty important, however.
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« Reply #203 on: March 15, 2018, 08:47:11 PM »

Here's my NJ plan.



NJ-01: D+12
NJ-02: R+1
NJ-03: R+12
NJ-04: D+13
NJ-05: D+4
NJ-06: R+3
NJ-07: D+16
NJ-08: D+25
NJ-09: D+6
NJ-10: D+31
NJ-11: R+9
NJ-12: D+9
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« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2018, 09:01:11 PM »

Evesham does not belong with Toms River...
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« Reply #205 on: March 15, 2018, 09:06:13 PM »

Evesham does not belong with Toms River...
That 3rd district was definitely the hardest. It's pretty similar to the real-life one I think.
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« Reply #206 on: March 15, 2018, 11:27:42 PM »

Evesham does not belong with Toms River...
That 3rd district was definitely the hardest. It's pretty similar to the real-life one I think.

The thing is, there's a much neater solution where NJ-02 goes further into Gloucester instead of into Ocean, NJ-01 goes into Burlington to make up for the losses in Gloucester, and NJ-04 takes the rest of suburban Burlington from NJ-03 (not sure if this lets NJ-03 leave Burlington entirely -- probably not -- but it could at least be confined to remote SE Burlington). Same number of county splits and a much neater and more COI-friendly map.

The current map is a gerrymandered mess so not at all a guideline for what is acceptable.
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« Reply #207 on: March 16, 2018, 12:04:27 AM »
« Edited: March 26, 2018, 06:34:18 AM by cvparty »


1: D+12
2: D+1
3: D+13
4: R+14
5: R+4
6: R+2
7: D+14
8: D+25
9: D+16
10: D+30
11: R+10
12: D+13
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« Reply #208 on: March 16, 2018, 01:35:54 AM »

I don't have access to DRA for a couple of weeks, but I found a map that makes an interesting entry. In the summer of 2011 while many states had yet to produce a map, but DRA had the data, there was a thread where posters drew their own ideal districts in their home states as if to run in them. I took 3 separate district plans and used those to build a plan for NJ. It's gerrymandered, but by members on both sides. Here's the post from that thread. If anyone feels like calculating 2016 PVIs let me know.

It is interesting to see three different NJ posts for ideal districts. Let me go a step beyond and assume they all sit as members of the NJ Redistricting Committee. I'll act as a staffer given their requests to form into the new map.

Here are my observations in fulfilling the request.

Chairman Verily (he has the most posts) is requesting the shape of the new CD 9. Even though the request is made without the VRA, the final map will have to have one majority-black and one majority-hispanic district. The majority-black district (CD 10) needs the Oranges, Maplewood, and part of Montclair to bring it up to 52.7% VAP. The majority-hispanic district (CD 11) is 51.8% VAP, but leaves Nutley and Lyndhurst as islands that have to go to the chairman's new CD. After those changes plus some extra wards in Clifton, it's now 61.9% Obama with a VAP of 56.7% white, 7.5% black, 16.2% Hispanic and 17.9% Asian.

Members Vazdul and krazen1211 have requested adjacent districts (CDs 12 and 4). They both are looking at parts of Mercer county and they've left a bit of a hole around Jamesburg in Middlesex. Since the Jamesburg hole is heavily Dem, that will go into CD 12 and most of krazen1211's Mercer request will be retained in CD 4. The biggest constraint on CD 4 is insuring that there are 3 full CDs in south Jersey without going into Monmouth, and that adds parts of Florence to CD 4 bringing it to 54.2% McCain.

CD 4 and the south Jersey 3 define CD 6 along the Jersey shore. CD 10 needed Plainfield, so to  maintain some compactness CD 6 picks up Piscataway from Vazduls' request. That leaves East Brunswick and Somerville to bring CD 12 up to population. It is now 66.4% Obama with VAP of 54.2 % white, 15.1% black, 15.0% Hispanic, and 14.1% Asian.

This is the map that results. The maximum deviation is 61 persons. The political split is 8 D - 4 R, with one of the D districts (CD 2) rated as a lean D with Obama at 54.3%.





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« Reply #209 on: March 16, 2018, 06:50:57 PM »
« Edited: April 13, 2018, 08:07:57 PM by AustralianSwingVoter »

Massachusetts Non-Partisan plan. (Yes I know I'm too late)

My non-partisan redistricting plan for Massachusetts. Saugus is the only town split.

District 1 D+14.87 - 66.8 - 31.0
District 2 D+05.55 - 58.1 - 39.8
District 3 D+08.46 - 58.4 - 39.8
District 4 D+12.65 - 61.7 - 36.7
District 5 D+18.63 - 66.9 - 31.4
District 6 D+08.84 - 59.6 - 38.8
District 7 D+29.12 - 77.1 - 21.6
District 8 D+06.62 - 60.0 - 38.2
District 9 D+03.30 - 54.5 - 43.9

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« Reply #210 on: March 16, 2018, 07:30:10 PM »




1. D+12 (-966)
2. EVEN (-280)
3. R+11 (-1122)
4. R+5 (638)
5. D+8 (442)
6. D+12 (976) 47% W, 11% B, 21% H, 20% A
7. R+6 (200)
8. D+21 (-768) 41% W 29% B 23% H
9. D+30 (20) 26% W, 31% B, 37% H
10. D+27 (547) 30% W, 15% B, 41% H, 12% A
11. R+9 (-360)
12. D+14
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« Reply #211 on: March 16, 2018, 09:41:06 PM »




1. D+12 (-966)
2. EVEN (-280)
3. R+11 (-1122)
4. R+5 (638)
5. D+8 (442)
6. D+12 (976) 47% W, 11% B, 21% H, 20% A
7. R+6 (200)
8. D+21 (-768) 41% W 29% B 23% H
9. D+30 (20) 26% W, 31% B, 37% H
10. D+27 (547) 30% W, 15% B, 41% H, 12% A
11. R+9 (-360)
12. D+14


Umm, which district is which?
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« Reply #212 on: March 16, 2018, 10:33:06 PM »




1. D+12 (-966)
2. EVEN (-280)
3. R+11 (-1122)
4. R+5 (638)
5. D+8 (442)
6. D+12 (976) 47% W, 11% B, 21% H, 20% A
7. R+6 (200)
8. D+21 (-768) 41% W 29% B 23% H
9. D+30 (20) 26% W, 31% B, 37% H
10. D+27 (547) 30% W, 15% B, 41% H, 12% A
11. R+9 (-360)
12. D+14


Umm, which district is which?

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« Reply #213 on: March 16, 2018, 11:38:54 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2018, 10:54:31 PM by jimrtex »

Note: This reflects the change with respect to Long Beach Island. This has no effect on the districts presented before this. The Weehawkenmander Follows;

Though of course, counties can not be directly used in New Jersey, they can help us in laying out districts. In particular, they can help guide placement of Trenton.

Northern NJ (New York UCC + Warren) has a population equivalent to 8.981 districts.
Southern NJ (Philadelphia UCC, plus peripheral UCCs) 2.519
Central NJ (Trenton UCC) 0.501

Clearly Mercer belongs with the south to create 3 districts, while 9 districts in the north.



In the North, most counties are roughly equivalent to a district, so that we can try to create districts that are identifiable with the counties, though not identical. We first group counties so that they are close to an integer multiple of the quota.

1,2 Bergen, Passaic 1.920

In balancing the population, we may be able to compensate for the odd shape of Passaic.

3, 4 , 5, Essex, Hudson, Union 2.668

These three will need a rather large inflow (roughly 200K)

6, 7, 8 Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Somerset 3.194

Monmouth and Middlesex may end up largely split.

9 Morris, Sussex, Hunterdon, and Warren 1.199

The three small Delaware River counties are placed with Morris to avoid being dominated.

In the Central and South:

10 Burlington, Mercer 1.113

11 Camden, Gloucester 1.095

12 Atlantic, Cumberland, Cape May, Salem 0.812

Inter-regional flows:

Morris to Passaic 0.080
Morris to Essex 0.119
Middlesex to Union 0.213
Burlington to Ocean 0.019
Burlington to Atlantic 0.094
Gloucester to Sussex, Atlantic 0.095



This is my final map. Shifting from Essex into Hudson would have required splitting Newark, so instead the Hudson seat went north into Bergen, which resulted in a small coutner-clockwise rotation of seats. It also worked out better to take some small nibbles out of counties for population balance and shape reasons. The districts are clearly associated with counties. Each county will be recognized in the name of a district that has the largest share of the population. If a secondary part of a county forms 20% of a district it will also be named.



Detail of North Jersey



Detail of Northeastern New Jersey



Detail of South Jersey





Details:

NJ-1 Bergen - Hackensack, Teaneck, Fort Lee. +0.11%, D+6.14, A 62, As 16, H 15, B 6, O 1.

100% of the district is in Bergen, and 81% of Bergen is in the district. The southern part of the county is in NJ-3, and the western part in NJ-2.

NJ-2 Passaic-North Morris - Paterson, Clifton, Passaic, Wayne Twp., Rockaway Twp. 0.29%, D+3.86, A 60, H 25, B 8, As 6, O 1.

100% of Passaic is in the district. 68% of the district is in Passaic, 21% in (northern) Morris, and 10% in (western Bergen).

NJ-3 Hudson - Jersey City, Union City, Bayonne, North Bergen Twp., Hoboken, West New York, Kearny. -0.24%, D+22.70, A 38, H 37, As 13, B 9, O 2.

100% of Hudson is in the district. 87% of the district is in Hudson, 13% in (southern) Bergen. I had originally planned to go westward into Essex, but that would have required a split of Newark. In going north, I first went north from Kearny west of the Meadowlands. This overall makes a more compact district, and prevents isolation of Kearny. It might also make sense to go north along the Hudson. This split gives NJ-3 a more Hispanic flavor, with NJ-4 a more Black flavor. It may depend on citizenship whether Hispanic voters could control the Democratic primary in NJ-3.

NJ-4 Essex - Newark, East Orange, Irvington Twp., Bllomfield Twp., West Orange Twp., Montclair Twp. +0.20%, D+27.97, B 40, A 33, H 20, As 4.

100% of the district is in Essex, 94% of Essex is in the district.

NJ-5 Union-North Middlesex - Elizabeth, Woodbridge Twp., Union (Union) Twp., Plainfield, Linden. +0.12%, D+15.49, A 50, H 23, B 18, As 8, O 2.

100% of Union is in the the district, Union is 73% of the district. 19% of Middlesex is in the district, 21% of the district is in Middlesex, 6% of the district is in Essex.

NJ-6 Middlesex-Somerset - Edison Twp., Franklin (Somerset) Twp., Piscataway Twp., New Brunswick, East Brunswick Twp., Bridgewater Twp., South Brunswick Twp., North Brunswick Twp., Hillsborough Twp. +0.29%, D+9.38, A 55, As 21, H 13, B 9, O 2.

51% of Middlesex is in the district, 56% of the district is in Middlesex, 99% of Somerset is in the district, 44% of the district is in Middlesex.

NJ-7 Monmouth-East Middlesex - Middletown Twp., Old Bridge Twp., Perth Amboy, Sayreville, Marlboro Twp., Monroe (Monmouth) Twp., Manalapan Twp. -0.18%, R+1.15, A 72, H 13, B 7, As 6, O 1.

78% of Monmouth is in the district, 67% of the district is in Monmouth. 30% of Middlesex is in the district, 33% of the district is in Middlesex.

NJ-8 Ocean - Lakewood Twp., Toms River Twp., Brick Twp., Jackson Twp., Howell Twp., Manchester Twp., Berkeley Twp. -0.17%, R+12.05, A 85, H 8, B 3, As 3, O1.

94% of Ocean is in the district, 74% of the district is in Ocean. 19% of the district is in Monmouth, 6% in Mercer, and less than 1% in Middlesex.

NJ-9 Morris-Sussex-Hunterdon-Warren - Parsippany-Troy Hills Twp., Vernon Twp., , Raritan Twp., Phillipsburg. +0.01%, R+8.39, A 82, H 9, As 6, B 3, O 1.

69% of Morris is in the district, and 46% of the district is in Morris. 100% of the Sussex, Hunterdon, and Warren are in the district, and they form 20%, 18%, and 15% of the district, respectively. Essex and Somerset each form less than 1% of the district.

NJ-10 Burlington-Mercer - Hamilton (Mercer) Twp., Trenton, Evesham Twp., Mount Laurel Twp.. +0.11%, D+11.73 A 65, B 18, H 9, As 6, O 2.

90% of Burlington is in the district, 55% of the district is in Burlington. 87% of Mercer is in the district, 44% of the district is in Mercer. 1% of the district is in Ocean.

NJ-11 Camden-Gloucester  - Camden, Cherry Hill Twp., Gloucester (Camden) Twp., Washington (Gloucester) Twp., Winslow Twp. +0.08%, D+12.25, A 70 B 15, H 10, As 4, O 1.

100% of Camden is in the district, 70% of the district is in the UCC. 67% of Gloucester is in the district, 26% of the district is in Gloucester. 4% of the district is in Burlington.

NJ-12 Atlantic-Cumberland-Cape May-Salem - Vineland Twp., Egg Harbor Twp., Galloway Twp., Lower Twp., Pennsville Twp. -0.03%, R+0.32, A 70, B 12, H 12, As 4, O 1.

100% of Atlantic, Cumberland, Cape May, and Salem are in the district. 33% of the Gloucester is in the district. The district is comprised of Atlantic (37%), Cumberland (21%), Cape May (13%), Gloucester (13%), Salem (9%), Ocean (3%), and Burlington (2%).
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« Reply #214 on: March 19, 2018, 11:55:16 PM »

I don't have access to DRA for a couple of weeks, but I found a map that makes an interesting entry. In the summer of 2011 while many states had yet to produce a map, but DRA had the data, there was a thread where posters drew their own ideal districts in their home states as if to run in them. I took 3 separate district plans and used those to build a plan for NJ. It's gerrymandered, but by members on both sides. Here's the post from that thread. If anyone feels like calculating 2016 PVIs let me know.

It is interesting to see three different NJ posts for ideal districts. Let me go a step beyond and assume they all sit as members of the NJ Redistricting Committee. I'll act as a staffer given their requests to form into the new map.

Here are my observations in fulfilling the request.

Chairman Verily (he has the most posts) is requesting the shape of the new CD 9. Even though the request is made without the VRA, the final map will have to have one majority-black and one majority-hispanic district. The majority-black district (CD 10) needs the Oranges, Maplewood, and part of Montclair to bring it up to 52.7% VAP. The majority-hispanic district (CD 11) is 51.8% VAP, but leaves Nutley and Lyndhurst as islands that have to go to the chairman's new CD. After those changes plus some extra wards in Clifton, it's now 61.9% Obama with a VAP of 56.7% white, 7.5% black, 16.2% Hispanic and 17.9% Asian.

Members Vazdul and krazen1211 have requested adjacent districts (CDs 12 and 4). They both are looking at parts of Mercer county and they've left a bit of a hole around Jamesburg in Middlesex. Since the Jamesburg hole is heavily Dem, that will go into CD 12 and most of krazen1211's Mercer request will be retained in CD 4. The biggest constraint on CD 4 is insuring that there are 3 full CDs in south Jersey without going into Monmouth, and that adds parts of Florence to CD 4 bringing it to 54.2% McCain.

CD 4 and the south Jersey 3 define CD 6 along the Jersey shore. CD 10 needed Plainfield, so to  maintain some compactness CD 6 picks up Piscataway from Vazduls' request. That leaves East Brunswick and Somerville to bring CD 12 up to population. It is now 66.4% Obama with VAP of 54.2 % white, 15.1% black, 15.0% Hispanic, and 14.1% Asian.

This is the map that results. The maximum deviation is 61 persons. The political split is 8 D - 4 R, with one of the D districts (CD 2) rated as a lean D with Obama at 54.3%.







Came here to lurk for the first time in a while, noticed this, and remembered back on it fondly. That was a fun project. Anyway, I had a go at reproducing the map to get the 2016 PVIs. My map came out close to yours, but since it's very difficult to see where the lines are in split counties and especially split municipalities, I took the liberty of making quite a few estimations. As such, these numbers won't be exact to the map as pictured, but it should give a pretty good idea.

For all racial percentages, voting age population is given.

NJ-01:
65.1% White, 18.9% Black, 10.1% Hispanic, 4.4% Asian, 0.2% Native, 1.4% Other.
Obama: 67.3%, McCain: 31.6%, Other: 1.1%, 2016 PVI: D+15.79

NJ-02:
70.2% White, 12.4% Black, 12.2% Hispanic, 3.7% Asian, 0.3% Native, 1.2% Other.
Obama: 54.0%, McCain: 44.8%, Other: 1.3%, 2016 PVI: D+0.17

NJ-03:
86.7% White, 4.5% Black, 5.0% Hispanic, 2.7% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.0% Other.
McCain: 52.0%, Obama: 46.8%, Other: 1.2%, 2016 PVI: R+6.86

NJ-04 (krazen's district)Sad
78.9% White, 5.3% Black, 8.2% Hispanic, 6.6% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.0% Other.
McCain: 54.5%, Obama: 44.4%, Other: 1.1% 2016 PVI: R+8.75

NJ-05:
84.3% White, 1.8% Black, 6.7% Hispanic, 6.1% Asian, 0.1% Native, 0.9% Other.
McCain: 54.6%, Obama: 44.4%, Other: 1.1%, 2016 PVI: R+7.64

NJ-06:
58.5% White, 9.6% Black, 15.7% Hispanic, 14.4% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.7% Other.
Obama: 57.0%, McCain: 41.8%, Other: 1.2%, 2016 PVI: D+7.11

NJ-07
81.0% White, 3.2% Black, 7.8% Hispanic, 7.0% Asian, 0.1% Native, 0.9% Other.
McCain: 53.4%, Obama: 45.6%, Other: 1.1%, 2016 PVI: R+5.10

NJ-08
53.3% White, 8.8% Black, 29.2% Hispanic, 7.4% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.2% Other.
Obama: 57.0%, McCain: 42.2%, Other: 0.8%, 2016 PVI: D+8.39

NJ-09 (Verily's District)Sad
57.0% White, 7.4% Black, 16.2% Hispanic, 17.8% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.5% Other.
Obama: 62.4%, McCain: 36.7%, Other: 0.8%, 2016 PVI: D+13.69

NJ-10:
23.7% White, 51.8% Black, 17.3% Hispanic, 5.0% Asian, 0.2% Native, 2.1% Other.
Obama: 84.1%, McCain: 15.4%, Other: 0.5%, 2016 PVI: D+35.15

NJ-11:
27.8% White, 10.4% Black, 51.3% Hispanic, 8.2% Asian, 0.1% Native, 2.2% Other.
Obama: 71.6%, McCain: 27.5%, Other: 0.8%, 2016 PVI: D+26.10

NJ-12 (my district)Sad
54.2% White, 15.1% Black, 15.0% Hispanic, 14.1% Asian, 0.1% Native, 1.5% Other.
Obama: 66.5%, McCain: 32.5%, Other: 1.1%, 2016 PVI: D+16.73
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« Reply #215 on: March 20, 2018, 12:04:34 AM »


There is no road access to Long Beach Island except for NJ Route 72 between Stafford Township and Ship Bottom. If I understand the point of this exercise, that won't pass muster.
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« Reply #216 on: March 20, 2018, 01:32:07 AM »


There is no road access to Long Beach Island except for NJ Route 72 between Stafford Township and Ship Bottom. If I understand the point of this exercise, that won't pass muster.

Is this better?



At issue  would be how connectivity is defined. Most of the population of Stafford Twp. is west of the Garden State Parkway, or just to the east. It would be easy to get to the island without really being seen in Stafford.
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« Reply #217 on: March 20, 2018, 01:46:49 AM »


Yes, that solves the problem.

At issue  would be how connectivity is defined. Most of the population of Stafford Twp. is west of the Garden State Parkway, or just to the east. It would be easy to get to the island without really being seen in Stafford.

3) Districts must be contiguous (water contiguity is allowed, but the areas should be connected by something like a bridge or ferry)

So, your first plan is not strictly against the rules, but I think having the bridge crossing is more in the spirit of the game.
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« Reply #218 on: March 26, 2018, 09:22:31 AM »

Similar to NJ, most of Maryland's 6,000,000 people are concentrated in like 6 counties, a small number. Don't go crazy over the county lines please. Also, the presence of Chesapeake Bay creates an interesting dynamic. The Anne Arundel districts should be fun to see...
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« Reply #219 on: March 26, 2018, 10:01:16 PM »




1. R+7 (connected via bridge. I wanted to make a Chesapeake-centric district. Calvert and St Marys have more in common with the Eastern Shore than they do Charles/PG)
2. R+8
3. D+32 (52% Black, 38% White)
4. D+32 (38% White, 27% Black, 24% Hispanic)
5. D+35 (69% Black)
6. R+12
7. D+11
8. D+18
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« Reply #220 on: March 27, 2018, 08:09:03 PM »




1. R+7 (connected via bridge. I wanted to make a Chesapeake-centric district. Calvert and St Marys have more in common with the Eastern Shore than they do Charles/PG)
2. R+8
3. D+32 (52% Black, 38% White)
4. D+32 (38% White, 27% Black, 24% Hispanic)
5. D+35 (69% Black)
6. R+12
7. D+11
8. D+18
I know I cannot vote on the maps, but I can say personally is a horrible map. You are deliberately gerrymandering if you are not putting Cecil as well as Hereford in a district together. saint Mary's and Talbot are two worlds apart, too.
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« Reply #221 on: March 27, 2018, 08:26:10 PM »




1. R+7 (connected via bridge. I wanted to make a Chesapeake-centric district. Calvert and St Marys have more in common with the Eastern Shore than they do Charles/PG)
2. R+8
3. D+32 (52% Black, 38% White)
4. D+32 (38% White, 27% Black, 24% Hispanic)
5. D+35 (69% Black)
6. R+12
7. D+11
8. D+18
I know I cannot vote on the maps, but I can say personally is a horrible map. You are deliberately gerrymandering if you are not putting Cecil as well as Hereford in a district together. saint Mary's and Talbot are two worlds apart, too.

Cecil and Harford are together along with Eastern Baltimore. And St. Mary’s probably has more in common with Talbot than Prince George’s
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« Reply #222 on: March 27, 2018, 08:27:51 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2018, 08:32:06 PM by Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 »

https://ibb.co/m17vFS

1(blue)-R+12.38
2(green)-R+11.71
3(purple)-D+37.49
4(orange-red)-D+6.75
5(yellow)-D+21.22
6(sea green)-D+4.25
7(grey)-D+35.31
8(light purple)-D+23.5

does a link to the photo count? I don't know how to use the gallery...
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« Reply #223 on: March 27, 2018, 08:35:49 PM »




1. R+7 (connected via bridge. I wanted to make a Chesapeake-centric district. Calvert and St Marys have more in common with the Eastern Shore than they do Charles/PG)
2. R+8
3. D+32 (52% Black, 38% White)
4. D+32 (38% White, 27% Black, 24% Hispanic)
5. D+35 (69% Black)
6. R+12
7. D+11
8. D+18
I know I cannot vote on the maps, but I can say personally is a horrible map. You are deliberately gerrymandering if you are not putting Cecil as well as Hereford in a district together. saint Mary's and Talbot are two worlds apart, too.

Cecil and Harford are together along with Eastern Baltimore. And St. Mary’s probably has more in common with Talbot than Prince George’s
I am saying that is a bad representation. Cecil in particular(any MDer can confirm) but Hereford fits better with the shore too tbh.
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« Reply #224 on: March 27, 2018, 08:42:55 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2018, 09:28:35 PM by cvparty »


  • I tried to keep metro areas together
  • Southeast Baltimore Co. and Anne Arundel are similar demographically and geographically which is why I put them together. This arrangement puts Howard with Baltimore County which makes a lot of sense. (The 3rd is contiguous by I-695)
1: R+12
2: D+14
3: R+1
4: D+36
5: D+19
6: R+11
7: D+33
8: D+24
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