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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2018, 04:46:55 PM »

ALG should have run for Gov in 2015 and never ran for Senate, I believe she would have won.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2018, 08:03:28 PM »

It honestly depends as to who runs against him in 2019. If it's a center-right Blue Dog Democrat, then no. If they really wanted to vote for a Republican, they would vote for Bevin. Why vote for the one with   a D next to it's name? If it's a left wing progressive like Paula Jean (D-WV) is, well then it may be competitive. That Democrat, however, is still in a state Trump won by 25 points or so. So that Democrat has to hammer the message that they don't take PAC or billionaire money, support Medicare for all, open opposition to NAFTA and TPP, and other left wing ideas. Because polls show that a state like Kentucky or West Virginia, which both went to Trump overwhelming, they support left wing ideas, even the Tea Party ones. So yeah, you could flip that seat, but the Democrats have to be smart and run an actual anti establishment liberal.

1) A Blue Dog Democrat is not a Republican with a D next to his/her name.  Otherwise, that person would be a Republican.

2) A Blue Dog Democrat is just as likely to be a socially moderate/conservative "populist" with some left-of-center economic policies (which has historically played well in Kentucky) as he/she is to be a socially liberal, economically moderate/conservative technocrat (which would play horribly).

I don't know about you, but I think a guy like Dan Lipinski or Collin Peterson would fit in nicely in today's Republican party.
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2018, 09:21:59 AM »

With the whole pension drama going on, Bevin may have just signed his political death warrant.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2018, 09:31:51 AM »

With the whole pension drama going on, Bevin may have just signed his political death warrant.

He's done. He said all teachers have a "thug mentality", and that was it for him.
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2018, 10:49:59 AM »

It honestly depends as to who runs against him in 2019. If it's a center-right Blue Dog Democrat, then no. If they really wanted to vote for a Republican, they would vote for Bevin. Why vote for the one with   a D next to it's name? If it's a left wing progressive like Paula Jean (D-WV) is, well then it may be competitive. That Democrat, however, is still in a state Trump won by 25 points or so. So that Democrat has to hammer the message that they don't take PAC or billionaire money, support Medicare for all, open opposition to NAFTA and TPP, and other left wing ideas. Because polls show that a state like Kentucky or West Virginia, which both went to Trump overwhelming, they support left wing ideas, even the Tea Party ones. So yeah, you could flip that seat, but the Democrats have to be smart and run an actual anti establishment liberal.

1) A Blue Dog Democrat is not a Republican with a D next to his/her name.  Otherwise, that person would be a Republican.

2) A Blue Dog Democrat is just as likely to be a socially moderate/conservative "populist" with some left-of-center economic policies (which has historically played well in Kentucky) as he/she is to be a socially liberal, economically moderate/conservative technocrat (which would play horribly).

I don't know about you, but I think a guy like Dan Lipinski or Collin Peterson would fit in nicely in today's Republican party.
No. No they would not. Lipinski is far too liberal on economics and immigration to be a Republican in 2018.
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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2018, 01:40:39 PM »

With the whole pension drama going on, Bevin may have just signed his political death warrant.

He's done. He said all teachers have a "thug mentality", and that was it for him.
Yep, that was a very, very dumb thing to say, especially in a state like Kentucky. Kentuckians may be mostly conservative, but they're also generally very pro-union as well.
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2018, 02:48:01 PM »

To say that people here hate Matt Bevin would be an understatement. People are itching for 2019.
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2018, 02:49:24 PM »

To say that people here hate Matt Bevin would be an understatement. People are itching for 2019.

Just wait until Monday when the Republicans expand the sales tax to cover food. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2018, 02:50:42 PM »

To say that people here hate Matt Bevin would be an understatement. People are itching for 2019.

Just wait until Monday when the Republicans expand the sales tax to cover food. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2018, 02:52:54 PM »

To say that people here hate Matt Bevin would be an understatement. People are itching for 2019.
Yes, but do ENOUGH of them hate him?  Also, are you in a more conservative part of the state?
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2018, 02:57:29 PM »

Also, are you in a more conservative part of the state?

I am, and people here hate him too.
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2018, 03:03:17 PM »

Also, are you in a more conservative part of the state?

I am, and people here hate him too.
Are they energetic enough to vote next year?
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2018, 03:04:14 PM »

Also, are you in a more conservative part of the state?

I am, and people here hate him too.
Are they energetic enough to vote next year?


I certainly am.
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2018, 03:05:34 PM »

Who do you think might run?  Rumor is that Allison Grimes is likely to do it.
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2018, 03:06:13 PM »

Who do you think might run?  Rumor is that Allison Grimes is likely to do it.


Andy Beshear is a real possibility, and he'd win.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2018, 03:11:11 PM »

Who do you think might run?  Rumor is that Allison Grimes is likely to do it.


Andy Beshear is a real possibility, and he'd win.
I thought Beshear would challenge Mitch in 2020.
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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2018, 12:05:21 AM »

Based on how he performed back when everyone thought he was going to lose (or at least that Conway would keep it close), I wouldn't say he's in big trouble, but he probably isn't cruising to reelection.
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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2018, 08:36:18 AM »

Based on how he performed back when everyone thought he was going to lose (or at least that Conway would keep it close), I wouldn't say he's in big trouble, but he probably isn't cruising to reelection.
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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2018, 08:45:42 AM »

Based on how he performed back when everyone thought he was going to lose (or at least that Conway would keep it close), I wouldn't say he's in big trouble, but he probably isn't cruising to reelection.
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2018, 07:40:38 PM »

Yeah, he just upped his chances of losing exponentially by being butthurt about having his budget veto overridden by the legislature that he went on a crazed tirade about teachers that had a walkout/rally to convince the legislature to override the veto that included this:

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(Has video of Gov Bevin becoming unhinged)

The State House passed a bipartisan resolution condemning his behavior.
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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2018, 08:01:47 PM »

I could see Bevin losing in a blowout and there will be endless articles about what it will mean for 2020.
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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2018, 08:35:10 PM »

Yeah, he just upped his chances of losing exponentially by being butthurt about having his budget veto overridden by the legislature that he went on a crazed tirade about teachers that had a walkout/rally to convince the legislature to override the veto that included this:

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(Has video of Gov Bevin becoming unhinged)

The State House passed a bipartisan resolution condemning his behavior.
Next thing he'll rant about how Hillary, Mook, and Podesta ran a child prostitution ring out of said school.
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« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2018, 08:39:57 PM »

Yes, and that could trickle down-ballot in the state legislature this year.
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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2018, 08:48:41 PM »

He only won the 2015 Republican primary by 83 votes by the way.
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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2018, 04:40:55 PM »

Head clown Matt Bevin is finished in 2019
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