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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2018, 06:48:22 PM »

Can someone please explain who this guy is? Is he another Milo?

I think he's like the right-wing version of Zizek?
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2018, 07:37:03 PM »

Don't always agree with him and he's not the infallible sage that some people in his fanbase think he is, but he's a great psychologist and is right, for the most part, about political correctness and postmodernism, and the way that universities have lost their credibility as institutions for learning and engaging in constructive dialogue.  FF.

Uh what? Can you explain what you mean here? The vast majority of what universities do is research and teaching on technical or obscure topics like artificial intelligence or men's fashion in 18th century France. What credibility have they lost here?

Well the social sciences have become ideologized by the far left over the last several decades, which is why we're seeing censorship and sometimes violence against conservative or dissident guest speakers on college campuses.  That is essentially what Peterson has been trying to fight in the past year.

Which social sciences exactly? You mean economics, psychology, political science have been taken over by the far left? What about all the other departments at universities, such as business, physics, history, philosophy, biology, engineering, geography, computer science, agriculture, law, sports science, medicine, theology, chemistry, marketing...does the far left control those areas too?

Sociology, (cultural) anthropology, and fields with the name "[identity group x] studies" typically teach little more than left-wing ideology.

Oy vey.. If this isn't facetious, you certainly do fit in the cadre with paranoid loons like Jordan Peterson.

That's not an argument but okay.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/11/20/free-speech-isnt-free-its-costing-college-campuses-millions/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson#Of_Bill_C-16

When a university invites a nazi to speak before the student body, ofc there's going to be a reaction.
I'd be far more concerned if the students failed to react against right-wing cancer like Spencer and Milo.
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And, guess what, you can react to those things without setting fire to property that's not yours.  Imagine that!
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Literally who cares about some rich university's property being damaged?
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 08:12:49 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2018, 03:09:20 PM »

Don't always agree with him and he's not the infallible sage that some people in his fanbase think he is, but he's a great psychologist and is right, for the most part, about political correctness and postmodernism, and the way that universities have lost their credibility as institutions for learning and engaging in constructive dialogue.  FF.

Uh what? Can you explain what you mean here? The vast majority of what universities do is research and teaching on technical or obscure topics like artificial intelligence or men's fashion in 18th century France. What credibility have they lost here?

Well the social sciences have become ideologized by the far left over the last several decades, which is why we're seeing censorship and sometimes violence against conservative or dissident guest speakers on college campuses.  That is essentially what Peterson has been trying to fight in the past year.

Which social sciences exactly? You mean economics, psychology, political science have been taken over by the far left? What about all the other departments at universities, such as business, physics, history, philosophy, biology, engineering, geography, computer science, agriculture, law, sports science, medicine, theology, chemistry, marketing...does the far left control those areas too?

Sociology, (cultural) anthropology, and fields with the name "[identity group x] studies" typically teach little more than left-wing ideology.

An exaggeration, but there's some truth to it.

Womens/gender/queer studies are the worst; most are up front about having a political agenda, sponsoring protests and the like.  And this for something is a more common field in terms of graduate programs than library science. Ethnic studies are next most likely to be so motivated, though they can be better, depending on the program and professor.  More widely, there is a tendency in the humanities to view everything in terms of oppression ("hegemony") vs. resistence ("subaltern" "postcolonial" etc).  So in English, instead of reading Shakespeare to understand how he speaks to the human condition, you are likely to read him to see how he was a tool of colonialism and the patriarchy.  In anthropology you might spend little time on foundational studies of kinship or ritual but hear a great deal in terms of "Critical Studies" of capitalism. As for studying historical men's fashion, there's a high probability it is being analyzed in terms of  something that a peer-reviewed journal will find politically relevant.

That's not at all to say you can't find studies in these areas that aren't narrowly ideologically focused in this way, but you have to look for it, and have a high tolerance for the other stuff while you pursue it.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2018, 10:47:44 PM »

Don't always agree with him and he's not the infallible sage that some people in his fanbase thinks he is, but he's a great psychologist and is right, for the most part, about political correctness and postmodernism, and the way that universities have lost their credibility as institutions for learning and engaging in constructive dialogue.  FF.
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2018, 08:34:01 PM »

Can someone please explain who this guy is? Is he another Milo?

I think he's like the right-wing version of Zizek?

An interesting comparison. Both are students/apostles of psychoanalysis (Jung for Peterson, Lacan for Zizek), and find insight in religion, and Christianity in particular, without being orthodox believers.
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