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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2018, 11:58:56 AM »

Write in Hillary.
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2018, 12:52:31 PM »

Sanders.

Would have been Biden last election, but between '88 and '08, and staying out of this one when the goodwill was nicely built...well enough is enough.





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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2018, 12:57:10 PM »


LOL

I agree more so with Sanders' policies, but I would support Biden because I think he's the stronger candidate and has a better chance at defeating Trump.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2018, 01:04:00 PM »


LOL

I agree more so with Sanders' policies, but I would support Biden because I think he's the stronger candidate and has a better chance at defeating Trump.

Ford had a stronger chance than Reagan at beating Carter...twice. Oops

Also, Biden lost to Dukakis...how many points did Dukakis lose to Bush Sr after a double digit lead?
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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2018, 02:13:59 PM »


LOL

I agree more so with Sanders' policies, but I would support Biden because I think he's the stronger candidate and has a better chance at defeating Trump.

Ford had a stronger chance than Reagan at beating Carter...twice. Oops

Also, Biden lost to Dukakis...how many points did Dukakis lose to Bush Sr after a double digit lead?
That was in the 1980s. This is 2020.
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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2018, 02:41:32 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2018, 02:43:19 PM by IndustrialJustice »


LOL

I agree more so with Sanders' policies, but I would support Biden because I think he's the stronger candidate and has a better chance at defeating Trump.

Ford had a stronger chance than Reagan at beating Carter...twice. Oops

Also, Biden lost to Dukakis...how many points did Dukakis lose to Bush Sr after a double digit lead?
That was in the 1980s. This is 2020.

Without even having to make an political argument for or against Biden, we should at least be able to agree that Joe is a complete moron and one of the most notorious gaffe machines in modern politics. Expecting him not to combust on the national stage for a third time in three tries is as naive as it stupid.

I think it's just wonderful that Britain's left is pulling out 70-percent-plus participation from its country's youth while the frontrunner for the Democratic Party has used his first year out of office to throw barbs at millennials.
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2018, 02:44:29 PM »

Sanders, easily
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2018, 03:58:56 PM »

Biden is quite bad politically and it's weird how so many people have forgotten this.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2018, 09:03:12 AM »

I want to win, so Biden.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2018, 09:16:13 AM »

Biden absolutely has a track record of running bad campaigns, so Sanders would be the sole pragmatic choice in this primary.
Because Sanders has a history of running successful presidential campaigns.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2018, 09:55:36 AM »

Biden absolutely has a track record of running bad campaigns, so Sanders would be the sole pragmatic choice in this primary.
Because Sanders has a history of running successful presidential campaigns.

Well, if you're not obtuse and instead are willing to describe some campaigns as "good" or "bad" (rather than "successful" (winning the primary) or "unsuccessful" (not doing so)), I would certainly consider Sanders's 2016 campaign to be of a much higher quality than Biden's 1988 or 2008 endeavors.
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2018, 10:10:57 AM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2018, 03:32:27 PM »

Enthusiastic Biden. If he announces, I’ll definitely be changing my registration to Democrat. But if Sanders is nominated I’d still probably vote for him in the general because I’m not an idiot.
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2018, 04:37:02 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2018, 04:38:43 PM by bagelman »

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/the-case-for-impeaching-clarence-thomas.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t

"The Thomas hearings were not just a national referendum on workplace behavior, sexual mores, and the interplay between those things; they were a typical example of partisan gamesmanship and flawed compromise. Chairman Biden was outmaneuvered and bluffed by the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee. He had plenty of witnesses who could have testified about Thomas’s inappropriate sexualized office behavior and easily proven interest in the kind of porn Hill referenced in her testimony, but had made a bargain with his Republican colleagues that sealed Hill’s fate: He agreed only to call witnesses who had information about Thomas’s workplace behavior. Thomas’s “private life,” especially his taste for porn — then considered more outré than it might be now — would be out of bounds, despite the fact that information confirming his habit of talking about it would have cast extreme doubt on Thomas’s denials.

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Among the corroborative stories — the potential #MeToos — that Biden knew about but was unwilling to use: those of Angela Wright; Rose Jourdain, another EEOC worker in whom Wright confided; and Sukari Hardnett, still another EEOC worker with relevant evidence. (“If you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive and worked directly for Clarence Thomas, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female,” Hardnett wrote in a letter to the Judiciary Committee, contradicting Thomas’s claim “I do not and did not commingle my personal life with my work life” and supporting McEwen’s 2010 assertion that he “was always actively watching the women he worked with to see if they could be potential partners” as “a hobby of his.”) Kaye Savage, a friend of Thomas’s and Hill’s, knew of his extensive collection of Playboy magazines; Fred Cooke, a Washington attorney, saw Thomas renting porn videos that match Hill’s descriptions, as did Barry Maddox, the owner of the video store that Thomas frequented. And at least some members of Biden’s staff would have known Lillian McEwen had relevant information.

This is what any trial lawyer would call a bonanza of good, probative evidence (even without the additional weight of the other people with knowledge of Thomas’s peculiar sex talk, like Montwieler). In interviews over the years, five members of Biden’s Judiciary Committee at the time of the hearings told me they were certain that if Biden had called the other witnesses to testify, Thomas would never have been confirmed."


empty quoting this entire thing. Those who claim Biden is more winnable or would be more effective as POTUS ought to read it.
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2018, 04:38:28 PM »

Sanders and he will beat Biden.
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2018, 04:54:58 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2018, 06:23:40 PM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2018, 10:09:09 PM »

Biden(Not a Socialist)
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« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2018, 03:11:48 AM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?

He pushed the bankruptcy bill, threw Anita Hill under the bus, voted for the Iraq war, and so on. Unacceptable.
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« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2018, 04:29:39 PM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?

He pushed the bankruptcy bill, threw Anita Hill under the bus, voted for the Iraq war, and so on. Unacceptable.
Opposes Medicare for all, too.
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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2018, 06:24:56 PM »

Biden
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« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2018, 09:26:38 PM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?

He pushed the bankruptcy bill, threw Anita Hill under the bus, voted for the Iraq war, and so on. Unacceptable.
Opposes Medicare for all, too.
Which doesn't make him conservative.
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« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2018, 10:17:30 PM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?

He pushed the bankruptcy bill, threw Anita Hill under the bus, voted for the Iraq war, and so on. Unacceptable.
Opposes Medicare for all, too.
Which doesn't make him conservative.

Sure it does. What is more right-wing than opposing the concept of healthcare as a human right?

It puts him to the right of every Democratic President between Franklin Roosevelt and Bill Clinton (at least on the campaign trail.)
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« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2018, 10:19:00 PM »

Sanders. Biden is way too conservative for a Dem and way too handsy. It could sink him in the general
>Biden
>Way too conservative
wat?

He pushed the bankruptcy bill, threw Anita Hill under the bus, voted for the Iraq war, and so on. Unacceptable.
Opposes Medicare for all, too.
Which doesn't make him conservative.

Sure it does. What is more right-wing than opposing the concept of healthcare as a human right?

It puts him to the right of every Democratic President between Franklin Roosevelt and Bill Clinton (at least on the campaign trail.)

Jimmy Carter didn't support single payer but FDR at least tried to get in along with Social Security.
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« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2018, 10:25:45 PM »

If I was a Dem, probably Sanders

But if this scenario did pan out, it would likely be more divisive than 2016, especially if Sanders lost again.

And if THAT happened, Trump would likely win again BIG LEAGUE, BELIEVE ME!
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