Fair redistricting: Illinois

[cvparty]

Hello, Atlas, and welcome to our fair redistricting project! We will be creating fair and representative congressional districts through a bipartisan panel of me (I), Singletxguyforfun (R), Sol (R), OPEN (D), and TimTurner (D). It is essential that you read the rules here.

Status

Submissions are OPEN until 6/9, 8:00 AM EST! Feel free to submit up to TWO maps maximum, add a narrative/explanation to your map, and give feedback on other people's maps!

State order and directory
KY - IN - OH - MI - WI - MN - IA - NE - KS - OK - MO - IL
*You have the entire order here, so try to stay ahead and have maps in advance.

[cvparty]

I'm probably just going to send this directly to a ranked vote since there are only two maps

[cvparty]

I'm probably just going to send this directly to a ranked vote since there are only two maps

I'll likely have a map.

okie, no worries as long as you submit before the deadline. In fact, I think I'll extend it to 8:00 AM just to give everyone a little more time (I don't really expect many more ways of drawing KY though)

[cvparty]

KY-1 (West) 0.47%
KY-2 (Central) -0.18%
KY-3 (Louisville) 0.04%***
KY-4 (Louisville, Cincinnati suburbs) 0.04%***
KY-5 (Lexington) -0.29%
KY-6 (East) -0.08%

PVI?

[cvparty]

Sol's map wins for Kentucky! NEXT IS INDIANA

[cvparty]

Sol's map wins for Kentucky!

Were the results published somewhere?

would you like me to make a spreadsheet of all the state votes?

[cvparty]

Sol's map wins for Kentucky!

Were the results published somewhere?

would you like me to make a spreadsheet of all the state votes?

Yes.

kk i'll make it over the weekend (super busy this week )

[cvparty]

boop

1: D+6
2: R+8
3: R+18
4: R+9
5: R+14
6: R+15
7: D+15
8: R+14
9: R+22

[cvparty]

Sol's map wins for Kentucky!

Were the results published somewhere?

would you like me to make a spreadsheet of all the state votes?

Yes.

kk i'll make it over the weekend (super busy this week )

What's the status of the KY results? I have more than a passing interest. I'm involved with some graduate level academic research on redistricting algorithms, and any feedback about which maps were preferred over others may find its way into that research. Even better would be comments about the maps, but that doesn't seem to be the way panelists want to react. Of course if people want to say why they voted for a particular plan, I'll dutifully make note.

On a side note: Shouldn't Sol be moved into the open Dem spot? Then a Pub or at least an indy would take the second R spot.

I actually want the panelists to make comments, but it’s so difficult to have the others even just vote. I’d be happy to share my opinion though. I thought Sol’s grouping of Lexington and Frankfort made sense. I didn’t particularly like the way your map split that area among four districts. Also, Sol’s KY-05 and KY-01 reflected the ancestrally Dem parts of the state well imo. I look at pop density and voting trend maps primarily in forming my ideas about good district lines

About Sol’s role, there aren’t many Republicans so I’m just having Sol acting as a Republican. If a Republican does want to join then I would move Sol to a Dem. I know there might be concerns about partisan skew, but having 2 Ds and 2 Rs isn’t for them to want to gerrymander for their party, we’re all trying to follow the fair nonpartisan goal

[cvparty]

Aren't you concerned that by considering voting trends you might fall prey to subtle gerrymanders? In many states that have enacted or considered neutral reforms, they explicitly require that the maps be made without considering election data to avoid that very thing. IA is a good example of an independent mapping process that bars the map drawers from considering election results.

As an aside, my wife has family in the Lexington area, so I am personally familiar with it. Frankfort isn't that closely affiliated with Lexington. As the state capital it's kind of a shared area by the major metros. I find that's often true when the capital is outside of one of the big cities in the state.

yeah I realize it's potentially shaky territory but it's only one factor, also yes some slight gerrymandering may occur in states like massachusetts or oklahoma

[cvparty]

Can we extend this a day? I've been insanely busy and just realized the deadline is in an hour and a half. I love making maps of Indiana and I'd feel bummed out if I couldn't participate, haha.

you have like 10 hours

[cvparty]

Thank you! And I agree about the Region, it makes a lot more sense to include Michigan City in Lake County's District rather  than the very rural counties south of Lake/Porter. With all do respect, I really don't understand why so many people did that since it means you have a few counties completely disconnected from the Chicago metro in the same district as near-Chicago.

meh, speaking for myself it's apparently part of the Chicago/Gary MSA and I was trying to make the 2nd more competitive

[cvparty]

1: D+6.3
2: R+17.8
3: R+1.4
4: R+23.0
5: D+4.6
6: R+12.5
7: R+14.3
8: R+18.5
9: D+0.3
10: R+1.8
11: D+32.9
12: R+17.9
13: D+2.2
14: R+4.6
15: D+15.7
16: D+2.8

[cvparty]

• 1st district has the same boundaries as Single's
• 13 and 14 are drawn such that they're majority-black

1: R+9
2: EVEN
3: R+14
4: R+12
5: D+5
6: R+5
7: D+8
8: D+2
9: D+3
10: R+13
11: R+11
12: D+7
13: D+35
14: D+24

[cvparty]

Wisconsin is a tricky state to draw because Democrats are packed in Madison and Milwaukee. I'm really interested in how people approach the Milwaukee area districts

[cvparty]

1: D+5
2: D+18
3: D+1
4: D+14
5: R+17
6: R+8
7: R+7
8: R+7
Kenosha and Racine Counties are split because the western parts have a lot more in common with CD-5 than their eastern, urban counterparts (Kenosha and Racine cities)

[cvparty]

WI-##: Region / Three Largest Cities / Color / Incumbent (Party) / Population Deviation / VAP White / VAP Black / VAP Hispanic / VAP Asian / VAP Native American / VAP Other / PVI (2016 & 2012)

WI-01: Southeast Wisconsin / Kenosha – Racine – Janesville / Blue / Paul Ryan (R) / -2,532 / 84.2% / 5.5% / 7.6% / 1.5% / 0.3% / 0.9% / R+1

WI-02: South Central Wisconsin / Madison – Sun Prairie – Fitchburg / Green / Mark Pocan (D) / +38 / 88.1% / 3.2% / 4.0% / 3.3% / 0.4% / 1.0% / D+17

WI-03: Western Wisconsin / Eau Claire – La Crosse – Onalaska / Ron Kind (D) / -533 / 95% / 0.9% / 1.6% / 1.5% / 0.5% / 1.6% / R+2

WI-04: Milwaukee County / Milwaukee – South Milwaukee – Cudahy / Gwen Moore (D) / +1,647 / 51.5% / 30.4% / 12.9% / 3.2% / 0.6% / 1.5% / D+25

WI-05: Western Milwaukee Metro / Waukesha – West Allis – Wauwatosa / Jim Sensenbrenner (R) / +2,730 / 91.5% / 1.6% / 3.9% / 2% / 0.3% / 0.7% / R+12

WI-06: Northern Lake Michigan Shoreline / Green Bay – Sheboygan – Manitowoc / Mike Gallagher (R) & Glen Grothman (R) / +632 / 91.7% / 1.2% / 3.4% / 2% / 1% / 0.7% / R+10

WI-07: Northern Wisconsin / Wausau – Superior – Stevens Point / Sean Duffy (R) / -1,497 / 94.4% / 0.4% / 1.3% / 1.4% / 1.7% / 0.8% / R+6

WI-08: Lake Winnebago / Appleton – Oshkosh – Fond du Lac / Vacant / -483 / 92.8% / 1% / 2.6 % / 1.4% / 1.5% / 0.7% / R+8

1. R+3 (Southeast) -868
2. D+18 (Madison) +1261
3. EVEN (Southwest) +199
4. D+25 (Milwaukee) -761
5. R+17 (WOW Counties) +737
6. R+8 (East Central) +615
7. R+6 (Northeast) -1115
8. R+7 (Northwest) -66

Here's my plan A.


CD 1: (-2794) R+1.0
CD 2: (+38) D+17
CD 3: (-533) R+1.9
CD 4: (+1374) D+22
CD 5: (+901) R+10
CD 6: (+1829) R+11
CD 7: (-671) R+5.8
CD 8: (-142) R+6.8

Here's my plan B.


CD 1: (-2794) R+1.0
CD 2: (+2414) D+17
CD 3: (-1788) R+3.8
CD 4: (+1374) D+22
CD 5: (+901) R+10
CD 6: (-2317) R+7.1
CD 7: (+1252) R+5.1
CD 8: (+960) R+10

1: D+5
2: D+18
3: D+1
4: D+14
5: R+17
6: R+8
7: R+7
8: R+7
Kenosha and Racine Counties are split because the western parts have a lot more in common with CD-5 than their eastern, urban counterparts (Kenosha and Racine cities)

[cvparty]

1: R+4
2: R+2
3: D+1
4: D+12
5: D+26
6: R+13
7: R+14
8: R+3

[cvparty]

Muh CounTIes

[cvparty]

Where are the results for past states?

Virginia thread, second (?) post

[cvparty]

Muh CounTIes

If you lived in one of those MN counties, particularly the smaller ones, I think you would have a different attitude. On Solid's list, I've lived in two, plus one not on the list. They mattered to the residents, sometimes more than the municipality.

Do counties matter so little in FL? Are there no shared services at the county level?

I don't think I would. You say they "matter" over and over again, but what does that mean? In what sense? And how does that translate to "these people CANNOT be in different congressional districts"
I don't live in Florida either...

[cvparty]

MINNESOTA ENTRIES

1: R+4
2: R+2
3: D+1
4: D+12
5: D+26
6: R+13
7: R+14
8: R+3

plan A



CD 1: (-1015) R+5.0
CD 2: (+513) R+3.3
CD 3: (+126) D+0.1
CD 4: (-1169) D+12
CD 5: (+632) D+25
CD 6: (+944) R+7.6
CD 7: (+191) R+13
CD 8: (-225) R+3.5

plan B




CD 1: (-2899) R+5.6
CD 2: (+3555) R+2.5
CD 3: (-432) R+1.6
CD 4: (-62) D+14
CD 5: (+632) D+25
CD 6: (-16) R+8.6
CD 7: (-2689) R+13
CD 8: (+1908) R+2.7

1. R+6
2. R+1
3. R+2
4. D+14
5. D+26
6. R+10
7. R+12
8. R+3

Minnesota Non-Partisan plan 1 (4 MSP districts).
District 1 R+05.14 - 50.2 - 47.5
District 2 D+01.98 - 52.6 - 45.5
District 3 R+03.32 - 48.2 - 50.0
District 4 D+13.78 - 62.6 - 35.5
District 5 D+25.28 - 72.7 - 25.4
District 6 R+11.83 - 45.2 - 52.4
District 7 R+13.12 - 45.8 - 51.9
District 8 R+03.30 - 53.8 - 43.8






Minnesota Non-Partisan plan 2 (5 MSP districts).
District 1 R+03.59 - 51.9 - 45.7
District 2 R+00.58 - 50.9 - 47.1
District 3 R+01.54 - 49.6 - 48.6
District 4 D+13.73 - 62.6 - 35.6
District 5 D+24.57 - 72.3 - 25.8
District 6 R+12.42 - 42.9 - 54.9
District 7 R+12.43 - 47.1 - 50.4
District 8 R+03.50 - 53.8 - 43.8

[cvparty]

I took a different approach by making the 2nd centered around the urban eastern cities
1: R+4
2: D+5
3: D+1
4: R+14

[cvparty]

I took a different approach by making the 2nd centered around the urban eastern cities
1: R+4
2: D+5
3: D+1
4: R+14

Does Iowa permit splitting counties?  What would it be if Delaware was fully in the 2nd?

This map does seem vastly superior to the current map.

The 2nd would be overpopulated by 7000. You could swap Delaware for Louisa for whole counties, but I don't think Delaware being in 2 different districts is a big deal

[cvparty]

IOWA ENTRIES

I took a different approach by making the 2nd centered around the urban eastern cities
1: R+4
2: D+5
3: D+1
4: R+14

1. R+2
2. D+5
3. EVEN
4. R+14

CD 1: (-41) D+1.0
CD 2: (+35) D+0.7
CD 3: (+23) R+1.4
CD 4: (-18) R+11