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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
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Junior Chimp
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« on: April 01, 2018, 05:31:38 PM »

Curious Question Muon2, is it possible to have only a single County split, while also having a District entirely within Milwaukee County?
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
Solid4096
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2018, 12:32:52 PM »

Please turn on city/town lines when making a zoom map of the Twin Cities. As someone who grew up there, I can tell you that they matter locally. They also matter if I try to score the submissions.


MN has 3 UCCs to track. The Minneapolis UCC (Hennepin, Ramsey, Dakota, Anoka, Scott, Wright, Carver, Sherbune) has about 4.6 CDs of population. That means the ideal plan from a UCC perspective only covers those counties with 5 CDs while putting 4 completely within that part of the metro. The other two UCCs are much smaller: St Cloud (Stearns, Benton) and Mankato (Blue Earth, Nicollet), and ideal those pairs should not be split.
I think it is very justified to have these 2 Counties split if you want to use the river as a boundary line between 2 Congressional Districts.
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
Solid4096
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2018, 10:48:29 AM »

Personally I think the current Minnesota map is near perfect.

No

Let me list all the chops (really stupidly high):

02 District Chops (1 point each):

07, 08: Beltrami County
06, 07: Stearns County
01, 07: Cottonwood County
01, 02: Rice County
03, 06: Carver County
03, 05: Hennepin County

03 District Chops (3 points each):

02, 04, 06: Washington County
03, 05, 06: Anoka County

This state, where it is easily possible to score 7 chop points, ended up with 12 chop points.
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
Solid4096
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 02:56:30 PM »

Nebraska is among the easiest states to draw in an objectively correct way, and the people who drew it somehow messed that up big time.

plan 1:



Green: R+09.74, +666 Deviation
Red  : R+03.66, +059 Deviation
Blue : R+28.56, -724 Deviation

plan 2:

Simply switch Polk and Nuckolls County between the Green and Blue Districts, while leaving the Red District unchanged; this lowers deviation, but makes the shape look worse:

Green: R+09.69, -240 Deviation
Blue : R+28.59, +182 Deviation
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
Solid4096
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

P P P
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 04:23:09 PM »

Nebraska is among the easiest states to draw in an objectively correct way, and the people who drew it somehow messed that up big time.

plan 1:



Green: R+09.74, +666 Deviation
Red  : R+03.66, +059 Deviation
Blue : R+28.56, -724 Deviation

plan 2:

Simply switch Polk and Nuckolls County between the Green and Blue Districts, while leaving the Red District unchanged; this lowers deviation, but makes the shape look worse:

Green: R+09.69, -240 Deviation
Blue : R+28.59, +182 Deviation

no trolling pls
you are the troll.
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
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Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2018, 11:17:13 AM »

Hmm, we have 2 plans that respect the integrity of County boundaries, and 2 plans that ignore the integrity of County boundaries.
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America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS
Solid4096
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,738


Political Matrix
E: -8.88, S: -8.51

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2018, 03:17:33 PM »

Hmm, we have 2 plans that respect the integrity of County boundaries, and 2 plans that ignore the integrity of County boundaries.
the world ain't gonna end if a county's in two different congressional districts
There is no reason not to have a whole County plan if it can be done without high deviation, or really ugly shapes.

Such is in fact possible to do in Nebraska, so it should be required.
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