The logic of pro gun people. Why do more Americans die from guns ????

[User157088589849]

The gun lobby says it's many factors that cause gun crime...

Gun crime increases because of video games.
- Japan manufactures and plays more video games than Americans. So that is not the reason.

Americans watch violent movies.
- France watches the same number of violent movies as Americans they don't kill each other.

The breakdown of the family unit
- more divorces in the uk compared to USA. UK hasn't had one school shooting this century. So that is not the reason.

People have mental health issues
- More people in Australia suffering mental health issues than Americans yet they don't buy guns because they can't!

Poverty in poor areas creates violence
- Canada unemployment is twice that of America.

USA has always been a country with guns cowboys\indians wild west land of free.
- Germany exterminate 12m people.
- Japan occupation of Chinese.
- France massacre in Algiers
- British slaughter in india

How many people are killed by guns in Germany, France UK, Australia, Canada, japan? The answer is 10times less .

So what makes America so different? Ever reason the pro gun lobby gives  there is a country in the world that is statistically worse yet has no gun crime compared to other free world countries.

What is so different about america? What is the UK Japan France Australia Canada doing that USA isn't?

[JA]

Poverty in poor areas creates violence
- Canada unemployment is twice that of America.

I'm not really arguing with the premise of your post, but I'd like to note that a country's unemployment rate isn't necessarily a good indicator of its level of poverty.

[User157088589849]

Poverty in poor areas creates violence
- Canada unemployment is twice that of America.

I'm not really arguing with the premise of your post, but I'd like to note that a country's unemployment rate isn't necessarily a good indicator of its level of poverty.

The problem is the gun lobby don't want to use any logic, any reason the decision is pure emotion and mskescabsolute now sense.

Blaming the mentally ill is another attempt to avoid thecissue? The gun lobby relies on ignorance of its people.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://www.ericgarland.co/2012/07/22/the-contradictory-gun-culture-of-the-united-states/
What are y'all thoughts on this?

[136or142]

The mistake your making is assuming these are sincere arguments from the gun lobby.  They are lies designed to filibuster the issue until it goes away.  I've used this line for so many years now that I'm sure most people don't know any more where it comes from.  

There was a British television show in the mid and then again late 1970s called Fawlty Towers with John Cleese as the hotel owner Basil Fawlty.

In probably the most famous episode called 'The Germans', Basil suffers a concussion before a German family with hotel reservations arrives at the hotel and he constantly tells his staff 'whatever you do, don't mention the war'  (all the while constantly referencing the war himself "What would you like for Hors d'oeuvres? Hors d'oeuvres which must be obeyed at all times."

The purpose of these false counter arguments is to deflect from the guns so that people will obey "whatever you do, don't mention the guns."

[Not a Partisan Hack ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)]

USA has always been a country with guns cowboys\indians wild west land of free.
- Germany exterminate 12m people.
- Japan occupation of Chinese.
- France massacre in Algiers
- British slaughter in india

Invading/subduing countries has nothing to do with being pro-gun. As a matter of fact, you don't have to use physical force to bring down groups of people and/or countries.

• European settlers brought down Native Americans by infecting them with diseases that they didn't have immunity to.
• Using Sanctions against a country (see modern day venezuela)
• Purposely isolate yourself because you have it better than everybody else, only latter to be beaten down and used as a sphere of influence for other nations (china)

[Koharu]

https://www.ericgarland.co/2012/07/22/the-contradictory-gun-culture-of-the-united-states/
What are y'all thoughts on this?

I do agree to some extent that economic inequality should take some of the blame. I think the economic inequality here in the States is quite worse than other nations that we're routinely compared to in regards to gun control.

However, economic equality is the other issue that Republicans are determined to work against, and as difficult as it is, gun control laws will be faster/easier to enact and make it more difficult for folks to get their hands on weapons. It's not a panacea, but it's something.

[User157088589849]

Canadians have guns they don't kill each other!

Why has the UK not had a school shooting this century?

Why don't the Japanese shoot each other?
Why don't Australians?
Why don't french?

Why do Americans always kill each other?

[Meclazine for Israel]

Your rationalisation of the situation forgot one key statistic when producing any logical argument around mass shootings:



On a per-capita basis, India and China disappear, and you are now comporable to Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq:



And another absurd fact: Mass Shootings are Contagious

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/11/americas-mass-shooting-epidemic-contagious/545078/

"there are some data that mass shootings often occur in bunches, which indicates that they “infect” new potential murderers, not unlike a disease. “We find significant evidence that mass killings involving firearms are incent(ivis)ed by similar events in the immediate past,”."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/yes-mass-killings-inspire-copycats-study-finds-n386141

“Several past studies have found that media reports of suicides and homicides appear to subsequently increase the incidence of similar events in the community, apparently due to the coverage planting the seeds of ideation in at-risk individuals to commit similar acts,”

Gun culture is like a cancer within the genetic makeup of US society.

[Badger]

Your rationalisation of the situation forgot one key statistic when producing any logical argument around mass shootings:



On a per-capita basis, India and China disappear, and you are now comporable to Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq:



Um, you DO observe the type of countries we now "advance" to comparability with, right?

(Hint, all third world basket cases with raging genocidal civil wars going on for over a decade.)