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« on: March 05, 2018, 01:51:47 pm »
« edited: April 01, 2018, 11:19:05 pm by muon2 »

Modadmin's note: I see a need for people to post concerns about moderating policy and in the last month two threads have been filling that need. They are merged here. I will actively monitor this thread and prune messages that veer off topic, especially lengthy arguments between posters. If there is a useful exchange I may choose to split it out as its own topic.


thread about BPA locked by texasGirl because Mortimer admitted he wanted to present something that not everyone would agree with:
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Quote from: Virginia on March 04, 2018, 05:15:49 pm
Do you ever like to talk about things that aren't controversial?

In real life? All the time. On a politics message board? No. What would be the point of that? Do you expect this entire site to just be people quoting each other's paragraphs about how Trump is racist? What exactly do you get out of that? Is this like a replacement for religious services for you? Is that why you guys get so mad? I'm basically being sacrilegious, coming into your house of worship, and telling you your God isn't real?

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 01:52:30 pm »

It has always been a safe space.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 01:57:32 pm »

yeah, that's a lame locking.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 01:59:19 pm »

The controversy that Mortimer is whining about wasn't about whether plastic affected frog hormones, it was about him believing that the allegations against Alex Jones and Roy Moore were manufactured by muh "powers-that-be". I don't understand why he's still not banned. At least he's not allowed to smear his conspiratorial sh**t on everything he touches.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 09:41:13 am »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 02:18:56 pm »

Get these women under control muon.

Damn, I didn't realize posting to a thread made me out of control.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 02:33:50 pm »

Get these women under control muon.

Damn, I didn't realize posting to a thread made me out of control.

For some people you simply being here makes you "out of control".
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 02:57:58 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2018, 03:43:07 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

Not really. I read it over 20 years ago and I felt they were too wedded to IQ as the best measure of intelligence throughout the population.

Are you suggesting that there aren't any chemicals in our environment capable of acting as endocrine disrupters, and that research studies along those lines are unneeded?
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 09:19:45 am »

I thought it irrelavent.

Plastics in the UK posted in the U.S. General Discussion.

It also had an overtone of anti-transgender about it. It would have started a fight.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 02:17:27 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 02:23:52 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 02:25:37 pm »

Hormones don't change mental gender, at least not outside the womb. Part of gender dysphoria(not all of it) is caused by the brain operating on the wrong hormones and results of that. The thread was clearly meant as an attempt to shill particularly nasty transphobic views.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 02:50:35 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

"We're going to put a lot of coal miners out of business, right Tim?"
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 03:58:17 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

The Bell Curve is to sociology what Guns, Germs, and Steel is to anthropology. It's pop science sold at airport bookstores so that people like shua can feel smart at cocktail parties.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2018, 04:12:03 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

The Bell Curve is to sociology what Guns, Germs, and Steel is to anthropology. It's pop science sold at airport bookstores so that people like shua can feel smart at cocktail parties.

lol yes all those cocktail parties I go to as a downwardly mobile teatotaling introvert.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2018, 06:28:50 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

The Bell Curve is to sociology what Guns, Germs, and Steel is to anthropology. It's pop science sold at airport bookstores so that people like shua can feel smart at cocktail parties.

lol yes all those cocktail parties I go to as a downwardly mobile teatotaling introvert.

Somehow, I am completely unsurprised
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2018, 06:53:54 pm »

It has always been a safe space.

yeah, that's a lame locking.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2018, 08:39:01 pm »
« Edited: March 07, 2018, 08:47:52 pm by shua »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

The Bell Curve is to sociology what Guns, Germs, and Steel is to anthropology. It's pop science sold at airport bookstores so that people like shua can feel smart at cocktail parties.

lol yes all those cocktail parties I go to as a downwardly mobile teatotaling introvert.

Somehow, I am completely unsurprised

You are unsurprised that the thing you assumed about me is the opposite of the truth.

This is some hilarious stuff!  Keep it coming!

Here is a post where I give some of my thoughts on the subject of The Bell Curve, btw, just to make it easier for you to start a thread calling for my banning:
It wouldn't make much difference; I'd still be largely against group-based preferences but in favor of efforts to recruit from underrepresented communities. Group differences in IQ are in terms of distributional averages, so it would tell you nothing about a particular individual.  It would just be even more reason to try to aim for an economy where people can have a decent living without necessarily having the kind of the skills that are associated with high IQ.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2018, 08:55:19 pm »

I think it's more about who did the posting and for what reason. That's the call of the board moderator if a thread looks like it will get out of hand. However, the underlying issue is one of legitimate debate and I posted on the thread to add some links to stories outlining the controversy.

Fascinating links! You should check out The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. I'm sure you'll love it.

If the people who denounced and tried to censor the Bell Curve had tried to seriously grapple with it instead, maybe Trump wouldn't be President right now.


(And before anyone assumes I'm speaking of anything to do with race, please crack open the book)
Jesus, of course you would think the bell curve theory has weight to it.

The Bell Curve is to sociology what Guns, Germs, and Steel is to anthropology. It's pop science sold at airport bookstores so that people like shua can feel smart at cocktail parties.

lol yes all those cocktail parties I go to as a downwardly mobile teatotaling introvert.

Somehow, I am completely unsurprised

You are unsurprised that the thing you assumed about me is the opposite of the truth.

This is some hilarious stuff!  Keep it coming!

If it makes you feel better, you can replace "cocktail parties" with "meaningless arguments on obscure election forums". It's pretty irrelevant to what I was saying, which is that The Bell Curve is a useless book.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 09:10:25 pm »

Sure, I'll pretend you said something different than what you said, since it would still be wrong anyway. No problemo.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2018, 12:20:35 am »

Sure, I'll pretend you said something different than what you said, since it would still be wrong anyway. No problemo.

Again, I don't care whether or not you actually go to cocktail parties. And again, my point  (which you've ignored in favor of pretending that I care about what kind of parties you do or don't go to) is that The Bell Curve is useless pop sociology for useless, vapid people who want to believe that they're ubermenschen.
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2018, 12:28:54 am »

Sure, I'll pretend you said something different than what you said, since it would still be wrong anyway. No problemo.

Again, I don't care whether or not you actually go to cocktail parties. And again, my point  (which you've ignored in favor of pretending that I care about what kind of parties you do or don't go to) is that The Bell Curve is useless pop sociology for useless, vapid people who want to believe that they're ubermenschen.

So to recap: your point is that people who think The Bell Curve is worth anything are a certain type of people. But it doesn't matter that I'm not the sort of person you said I was. Somehow you are still correct because reasons.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2018, 12:31:36 am »

Sure, I'll pretend you said something different than what you said, since it would still be wrong anyway. No problemo.

Again, I don't care whether or not you actually go to cocktail parties. And again, my point  (which you've ignored in favor of pretending that I care about what kind of parties you do or don't go to) is that The Bell Curve is useless pop sociology for useless, vapid people who want to believe that they're ubermenschen.

So to recap: your point is that people who think The Bell Curve is worth anything are a certain type of people. But it doesn't matter that I'm not the sort of person you said I was. Somehow you are still correct because reasons.

No, you've made it clear that you're a useless, vapid person.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2018, 12:32:35 am »

Sure, I'll pretend you said something different than what you said, since it would still be wrong anyway. No problemo.

Again, I don't care whether or not you actually go to cocktail parties. And again, my point  (which you've ignored in favor of pretending that I care about what kind of parties you do or don't go to) is that The Bell Curve is useless pop sociology for useless, vapid people who want to believe that they're ubermenschen.

So to recap: your point is that people who think The Bell Curve is worth anything are a certain type of people. But it doesn't matter that I'm not the sort of person you said I was. Somehow you are still correct because reasons.

No, you've made it clear that you're a useless, vapid person.

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