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Beet
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« on: March 09, 2018, 12:13:50 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.

And why do you see yourself on the (presumably) anti-left side of that "war"?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 12:30:07 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.

And why do you see yourself on the (presumably) anti-left side of that "war"?

I think the main issue WILL be culture. We are already seeing that as economic lines (in terms of party voting) are pretty mixed. For example, it used to be Democrat=working class and Republican=wealthy. Now, both parties are pretty much the same in terms of wealth. Hell, if you subtract African-Americans, Republicans are by average LESS wealthy than the Democrats. I mean, I don't see how the Republicans will survive as a national party if we don't accommodate our new base (which, is heavily White and working-class) without making major changes in our parties' economic viewpoints. That being said, it seems the driving issues of the day center around Trump and wether he was right or wrong for insulting some group. Immigration, guns, diversity, free speech, etc carry much more weight in terms of discussion then tax cuts or privatization (lol) do. And, all of this is centered around a new America vs Old America dynamic (you see this on college campuses everywhere).

I would post links expanding more on this, but for some reason I can't.

None of that has anything to do with the question I asked you.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 12:35:53 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.

And why do you see yourself on the (presumably) anti-left side of that "war"?

I think the main issue WILL be culture. We are already seeing that as economic lines (in terms of party voting) are pretty mixed. For example, it used to be Democrat=working class and Republican=wealthy. Now, both parties are pretty much the same in terms of wealth. Hell, if you subtract African-Americans, Republicans are by average LESS wealthy than the Democrats. I mean, I don't see how the Republicans will survive as a national party if we don't accommodate our new base (which, is heavily White and working-class) without making major changes in our parties' economic viewpoints. That being said, it seems the driving issues of the day center around Trump and wether he was right or wrong for insulting some group. Immigration, guns, diversity, free speech, etc carry much more weight in terms of discussion then tax cuts or privatization (lol) do. And, all of this is centered around a new America vs Old America dynamic (you see this on college campuses everywhere).

I would post links expanding more on this, but for some reason I can't.

None of that has anything to do with the question I asked you.

On the right. I think the left's positions on immigration (ESPECIALLY islamic), free speech (censor opposition), and "white privilege" all to be dangerous (naming a few issues). So, that makes me on the right-wing (though, I'm certainly mixed with many issues).


Thanks. I also think the left's positions on free speech and white privilege can be too harsh at times.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2018, 01:47:38 PM »

There is a lot of assumptions going on here. 'Archie Bunker' works hard and is a maker. Got it. I don't consider him scum, and I don't always feel morally superior to him, and I don't blame race or gender for what jobs I get. These people have my respect. That doesn't mean they are perfect. But anyone who contributes positively to society obviously deserves to be recognized.

The problem with Mitt Romney's sons was that they are working on their dad's campaign. In military service you go fight for your country, not your personal interests. That's a big part of what makes it heroic. I have no problem with comparing military service and working on campaigns as equally important, or even the latter so, but when that campaign is your dad's or mom's, treating it as something noble is a joke.
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