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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2018, 11:12:42 PM »

The subsidies don't necessarily have to go to the bus companies directly (and remember a number of them are municipal and state owned as well). You could have a system like Food stamps that follows the person if that makes sense. This is also similar to the way that we did healthcare and that way, the companies still have to provide decent service because they aren't assured to get that money.

Even with this considered, this bill still seems like something that is better suited for regional legislature rather than handled at the federal level.
the bill is modeled to give region the control.

This bill has the Federal government covering 60% of the cost and setting the prices of bus fares. The only thing it gives the regions is that they only cover 40% of the cost and they get to set environmental criteria. That's not giving the regions control. 
alright

with that, I have
- make it subsidies
give regions more control

anything else?
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2018, 02:10:40 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2018, 02:16:00 AM »

I'll object on behalf of the house members who wanna make edits. A couple days or so.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 03:25:03 AM »

How many days?

I assume you are withdrawing the amendment in favor of offering another with those edits, as opposed to this going to a vote?

Technically whenever an amendment is objected to it is by someone other than the one who offered it and the standard process is to take that to a vote (assuming the amendment has been on the floor official offered for at least 24 hours as a sort of minimum debate time first).
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2018, 03:33:38 PM »

I motion for a vote to table. This bill's flaws are too major to be fixed within its own means.
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2018, 04:08:18 AM »

I motion for a vote to table. This bill's flaws are too major to be fixed within its own means.

The bill only has like six lines of actual content. I have seen much longer bill get salvaged and passed.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2018, 04:12:53 AM »

Also the motion needs a second.
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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2018, 01:55:05 AM »

Seconds?


Amendments?


Debate?


Come on guys, I included this in the PM.
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« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2018, 11:50:40 AM »

I second this amendment.
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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2018, 03:43:32 PM »

I am in the process of rewriting it.

I ay be able to avoid a table vote.
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2018, 03:16:30 AM »


It wasn't an amendment, it was a motion to table, which seems to be temporarily withdrawn.
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2018, 03:42:26 PM »

Section 1: Title and Definitions
1. The long title of this act shall be the ”Atlasian Transportation Access Act" It may be cited as the “Atlasian Transportation Act”
2. For the purposes of this act, “Transportation" shall refer to buses primarily.

Section 2: Funding And Discounts
1.Each Citizen will be provided with a voucher of 20 USD a month to be spent specifically on bus passes.
2.If you choose not to take this voucher, you can turn it in each month for a 15 USD tax credit.
3. This will be paid for by The Department of Transportation.


Section 4: Bus Standards
1. All buses must meet certain environmental criteria, set by individual regions.


Section 5: Time of Enactment: This bill will take effect immediately after it passes.Section 1: Title and Definitions
1. The long title of this act shall be the ”Atlasian Transportation Access Act" It may be cited as the “Atlasian Transportation Act”
2. For the purposes of this act, “Transportation" shall refer to buses primarily.
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2018, 03:08:07 AM »

Are you officially offering that at this time?
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2018, 09:04:58 AM »

Yep
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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2018, 05:54:32 PM »

Could the sponsor indicate what is being changed from the previous text?
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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2018, 06:35:58 PM »

Could the sponsor indicate what is being changed from the previous text?
It has been changed to a voucher system
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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2018, 01:20:29 PM »

This amendment is clearly a massive waste of money, as a huge majority of our citizens don't use buses.  As well as possibly giving EVERY CITIZEN 15 DOLLARS A MONTH?!?!  That's insane, especially with the current deficit we have.  I strongly encourage the house to vote against this amendment.
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« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2018, 02:18:01 PM »

This amendment is clearly a massive waste of money, as a huge majority of our citizens don't use buses.  As well as possibly giving EVERY CITIZEN 15 DOLLARS A MONTH?!?!  That's insane, especially with the current deficit we have.  I strongly encourage the house to vote against this amendment.
actually, how about I change it so its based on salary and qualifications? that would cut out the 15 dollars a month and would distribute it to only the people who need it. Also, we need to wait for the gm to run the numbers before we know how expensive it is.
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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2018, 03:05:57 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2018, 09:57:22 AM »

I am very very sorry, but I am objecting.

I didn't really think this out, and the senator made some fair points, I am motioning for a vote to able, as while I think this would be a great bill, we need to get ourselves out of the deficit, and that should be a top priority.
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2018, 11:42:03 AM »

I am very very sorry, but I am objecting.

I didn't really think this out, and the senator made some fair points, I am motioning for a vote to able, as while I think this would be a great bill, we need to get ourselves out of the deficit, and that should be a top priority.

I second the motion.
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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2018, 09:09:05 PM »

You know, it is not to be a hard ass that I often end up being a hard ass but for the simple fact that when you cut corners or make sloppy motions, it basically leads to a procedural train wreck.

1. If you object to an amendment it triggers a vote on the amendment. If an amendment sponsor no longer wants to proceed with an amendment, they should withdraw the amendment.

2. If you motion for a final vote, such can only happen once debate is ceased, but if you have triggered a vote on an amendment debate has not ceased.

So if anyone wonders why I often take the time to ask for clarification on what one desires it is because not doing so, would take even longer. Especially considering that the amendment votes we just had were attended to with an "expeditious zeal" on the part of the house members.


So in conclusion, it is my understanding that the sponsor wishes to withdraw the proposed amendment and has motioned for a final vote on the legislation, is this correct?
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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2018, 12:57:17 AM »

You know, it is not to be a hard ass that I often end up being a hard ass but for the simple fact that when you cut corners or make sloppy motions, it basically leads to a procedural train wreck.

1. If you object to an amendment it triggers a vote on the amendment. If an amendment sponsor no longer wants to proceed with an amendment, they should withdraw the amendment.

2. If you motion for a final vote, such can only happen once debate is ceased, but if you have triggered a vote on an amendment debate has not ceased.

So if anyone wonders why I often take the time to ask for clarification on what one desires it is because not doing so, would take even longer. Especially considering that the amendment votes we just had were attended to with an "expeditious zeal" on the part of the house members.


So in conclusion, it is my understanding that the sponsor wishes to withdraw the proposed amendment and has motioned for a final vote on the legislation, is this correct?


If I believe correctly, he was attempting to withdraw, but I'm not 100% sure. (I thought, possibly in error, that I seconded a motion for a final vote).
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« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2018, 03:19:15 PM »

I am attempting to withdraw.
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« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2018, 05:41:38 PM »

Okay in that a case a final vote is now open on this legislation, Representatives please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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