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« on: March 17, 2018, 06:42:02 PM »
« edited: April 01, 2018, 02:24:43 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 07:25:09 PM »

I have some questions about this statement:

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https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Game_Moderator#History

By my count the GM existed from mid 2004 until Jan 2007 and from Nov 2008 until now.

Atlasia has existed for 14 years and this position has existed for 85% of Atlasia's existance, how can its absence in 2007-2008 be considered "years long"? At best it looks like a short interregnum.  

Also I am very curious to how this period from 2007 until late 2008 could be considered "the most active Atlasia has ever been"?

Most of what I know of 2008, makes me think of it as being similar to 2012 and 2015, as almost a dark ages of sorts activity wise. Certainly doesn't compare to late mid to late 2009, 2011, mid 2013 through 2014 and so on in activity, all of which seem to be so superior by almost every standard of comparison.

Now 2007 might have been really good, I cannot say for I was not here and frankly none of us present were. But I would really like to know what the basis for this 2007/2008 glorification comes from and why it is superior to a given period that followed after?
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2018, 07:33:32 PM »

I will agree there have been many times when the position has not lived up to its potential and was not the driving force of the game that it should have been during periods of time, most notably the inactivity of Ebowed in early 2009, opposition to which helped spur the early career of President Purple State and was a hot topic in my first Senate campaign.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2018, 04:22:10 AM »

And, frankly, in years past we've seen that this happens anyway to some extent - when there's a GM report that people disagree with the tendency has been simply to ignore it, or dismiss it as partisan. A sign, surely, of the ineffectuality of the position.

The biggest problem is that GM is regarded as a fringe benefit. There is very little centrality to the position, it is easy to ignore the GM.

Other games don't operate this way. The GM is at the center of everything and you literally cannot advance without the input of the game moderator. I am thinking of certain games in the game board for instance.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2018, 04:31:48 AM »


I'm painstakingly going through all of our GMs and drawing up just how much work any of them actually did in office - you know as well as I that it's been, sadly, the norm, not the exception, for a GM to take office, put out a few half-assed unemployment figures, and then resign in disapprobation after a prolonged period of inactivity. It's true that there was only a two year prolonged period where the position was literally vacant, but there's been far more time where the position's being de facto vacant and we were none the worse for it.

I'll post the results of my historic analysis shortly.

I look forward to seeing them.

One thing I have looked forward to in this game has been a time when foreign policy has dominated discussion. October was the first time I can remember an election where foreign policy, dominated an election. Part of this was magnified because you had an executive scandal involved. However, I would note that whole episode and the resulting energy that sprung from it, were entirely because the game moderator had been pursuing the Korea story line.

For once, you couldn't ignore the Game Moderator, and people had to take notice lest they find themselves accused of incompetence for not doing x or z before hand.

You are correct that we got by without an active GM, but have we ever had FP matter without the GM? Of course we also have to consider that we had the "Talking to yourself" dynamic with the SoIA/SoS from 2011 until 2015, which would skew the results of analysis. No one really gave a damn with that at work, as you pointed out.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 01:56:57 AM »

I don't like it when I am the last post on an thread that is on-going debate. It means debate has died. Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 02:25:29 AM »

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A motion to table has been filed by Representative PoliticalMasta and seconded Representative Wxtransit. A 48 hour vote is now open on the tabling motion, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. This will require 2/3rds to pass.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2018, 03:18:11 AM »

Abstain ftr
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2018, 04:22:16 AM »

sighs in frustration.

I ask unanimous consent to suspend the rules and halt the tabling vote. Representatives have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 02:20:41 PM »

I doubt there is enough votes to suspend the rules at this point so Motion Withdrawn.

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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2018, 02:24:28 PM »

Vote on the Motion to Table

Aye (3): Rfayette, PoliticalMaster and Weatherboy
Nay (0):
Abstain (1): WxTransit (technically the change was too late)

Didn't Vote (5): NC Yankee (too late), Oakvale (too late), Peebs, ReaganClinton (too late), and The GovanahJake

With two thirds of those voting in support, the bill has been tabled.
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