Make an election map between you and the last two posters.

[Former President tack50]

D primary: JEC4P vs tack50

I think I perform well in the Northeast and the Southwest and also win a couple more states, but I lose pretty much everywhere else.

General election: JEC4P vs S019

JEC4P wins a close election.

[DPKdebator]

SCENARIO I:

In a Republican primary, a contest between me and SNJC is close due to my unorthodox views and some of SNJC's more controversial positions on issues like guns. SNCJ does well in a lot of "very conservative" areas but loses a fair deal of hardcore conservatives because of some of his positions, while I have a coalition primarily based out of the Northeast, Midwest, and West Coast and narrowly beat SNJC.

DPKdebator
Suburban New Jersey Conservative

DPKdebator - 311 EV
tack50 - 227 EV

In a general election, I'd have a a coalition of blue-collar voters and decent suburban numbers that offset tack's appeal to Hispanics in the Sun Belt.



SCENARIO II:

In a three-way race, SNJC and I split the conservative vote and tack50 wins with a pretty large share of the EV.

tack50 - 406 EV
Suburban New Jersey Conservative - 103 EV
DPKdebator - 29 EV

[Mr. Smith]

Primary

Tack
Smith

Despite a strong start in Iowa, other challengers throw the race to Tack. Then NH is a blowout. Then SC. But I manage to stay in with Nevada...but ultimately, I mostly just end up a protest vote against Establishment Darling Tack. Eventually the money forces me out after Oregon comes up short.


General

Krol: 278 EV, 49.3% pv
Smith 260 EV, 48.9% pv

A spirited, close campaign between Krol and me. Ultimately Krol wins out because my religious background creates a little distrust and minority turnout plummets, which flips over Wisconsin and Michigan. Also, the home-effect flips over New Hampshire and Maine.

[HillGoose]

Republican Primary:

DPKDebator
HillGoose

DPKDebator starts strong, winning Iowa and New Hampshire, but I win South Carolina and the momentum of that win allows me to continue onward and perform well in more moderate, suburban and affluent Republican areas, or libertarian areas in the intermountain west, but I still end up falling short in the end.

General Election:

DPKDebator: 280 EV, 48.2% PV
Smith: 258 EV, 47.9% PV

The anti-establishment campaigns of both candidates create a razor-thin election with a high third party vote. The most interesting dynamic is the western vs. eastern division, which becomes more apparent in this election than any coastal vs. midland or urban vs. rural divide that is typically more common in American politics.

Smith far overperforms for a Democrat in the intermountain west, particularly Utah and Idaho, both states with large Mormon populations, where Smith comes within single digits of DPKDebator and winning Arizona on the third-party vote drawing away from DPKDebator.

In the east, DPKDebator wins many midwestern states, due to a heavy presence of most of his base voters in those states, and reduced minority turnout. Smith still carries PA, IL, and MN, however. This was the death blow for Smith's campaign, which was relying on perceived strength in Ohio and Wisconsin to deliver them the election.

New England is perhaps the greatest surprise, as DPKDebator wins Maine-at-large, as well as New Hampshire (by comfortable margins) and is within a single percentage point of winning Rhode Island and within 5 of winning Vermont. The Bible Belt is a disaster for Smith, leading to Florida and North Carolina being called for DPKDebator early in the evening.

[morgankingsley]

I made a third party bid, helping appeal to the white male vote, which helps gives me several states in the deep south as well as Montana and a narrow victory in Minnesota. I lock in myself as the real serious contender in Oregon and Washington through home state appeal and maybe minor voter suppression. I don't even make it on the ballot in Utah, the only state I don't. Hillgoose almost dies in arkansas and every democrat cheers for that and pity votes let him sweep every single county in California in a memeslide and win that way

[Politician]

R primary:

HillGoose targets the South, sunbelt and upscale suburbs; it works, but morgankinsley defeats him with a coalition of northern voters.

General:

Both of us ignore the Sun Belt and compete in the Rust Belt...I take advantage of the anti-Republican climate and pull off a narrow win.

[S019]

My socially liberal, pro establishment views lead to me being obliterated in the primary, other than an early win in NH, there isn't much good news until Super Tuesday

General: Politician v Morgan Kinsley

Politician spends a lot of time in the Midwest and largely ignores the Sunbelt, morgankingsley thus, takes the opportunity to campaign in the Sunbelt. Politician manages to secure the Rust Belt, meanwhile, morgankingsley narrowly wins Nevada, due to his Sunbelt campaigning.

Politician: 273 EV, 50.2%
Morgankingsley: 265 EV, 47.8%

[LAKISYLVANIA]

D primary

I win the young people vote by a large margin, win Hispanics, young Blacks and WWC vote while Politician consolidate the moderate, black, older and college educated people with a moderate pro-establishment campaign. I lose narrowly in the southwest, while narrowly winning in the mountain west and new england region, and winning big in the most northern states, because of populism.

Politician wins the primary

Politician vs S019

I endorse Politician, and Politician wins quite easily against socially liberal pro-establishment SO19 who can't generate much enthusiasm after the Trump era + fatigue.

Politician 357 EV
S019 181 EV

[HillGoose]

Republican primary

S019 takes most of my voter base early on (establishment, Reaganites, neocons, etc) and I go full libertarian and run a campaign mostly based on total government deregulation of all industries, ending gov subsidies, legalization of all drugs, protection of civilian ownership of any and all weapons, abolishing taxation (except sin taxes on sale of recreational hard drugs) as well as frequently ranting about how race doesn't exist and the government is covering up UFOs and missing persons cases. It doesn't pan out well, I win a handful of libertarian-heavy states in the intermountain west and am crushed everywhere else.

Lakigigar vs S019

Lakigigar (D) - 290 EV, 48.1% PV
S019 (R) - 248 EV, 49.0% PV

Lak focuses on winning over the Rust Belt and East Coast, while S019 goes after retaking areas in the Sun Belt that Republicans had previously believed were lost, as well as expanding the map in the Northeast and Great Lakes. S019 runs a far more energetic campaign, and is able to win the popular vote, however in the end the electoral math ends up working against him, and a few thousand votes in Virginia, Ohio, and New Mexico end up flipping the election in Lakigigar's favor. Despite the win, Lakigigar's campaign is disappointed in not carrying Wisconsin, Indiana, and other northern states, but they did make significant inroads with their demographic base, keeping the margin within 10 percentage points in West Virginia and winning North Carolina outright.

[😥]

Sen. AndriyValeriovich (D-MN)
Sen. Lakigigar (D-VT)

General election

Sen. AndriyValeriovich (D-MN)/Sen. Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA) 334 EVs
Sen. Hillgoose (R-TN)/Gov. Doug Ducey (R-AZ) 204 EVs

[Politician]

Primary:

AndriyValeriovich sweeps me in the South and undercuts my appeal with the WWC, but I sweep white liberals - he wins narrowly.

General:

AndriyValeriovich/John Bel Edwards wins with a populist coalition of the WWC and minorities, HillGoose/Nikki Haley sweeps upscale suburbs outside the Northeast and almost the entire sun belt. HillGoose comes within 15% in CA and carries TX by 20%.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Republican primary

S019 takes most of my voter base early on (establishment, Reaganites, neocons, etc) and I go full libertarian and run a campaign mostly based on total government deregulation of all industries, ending gov subsidies, legalization of all drugs, protection of civilian ownership of any and all weapons, abolishing taxation (except sin taxes on sale of recreational hard drugs) as well as frequently ranting about how race doesn't exist and the government is covering up UFOs and missing persons cases. It doesn't pan out well, I win a handful of libertarian-heavy states in the intermountain west and am crushed everywhere else.

Lakigigar vs S019

Lakigigar (D) - 290 EV, 48.1% PV
S019 (R) - 248 EV, 49.0% PV

Lak focuses on winning over the Rust Belt and East Coast, while S019 goes after retaking areas in the Sun Belt that Republicans had previously believed were lost, as well as expanding the map in the Northeast and Great Lakes. S019 runs a far more energetic campaign, and is able to win the popular vote, however in the end the electoral math ends up working against him, and a few thousand votes in Virginia, Ohio, and New Mexico end up flipping the election in Lakigigar's favor. Despite the win, Lakigigar's campaign is disappointed in not carrying Wisconsin, Indiana, and other northern states, but they did make significant inroads with their demographic base, keeping the margin within 10 percentage points in West Virginia and winning North Carolina outright.

Realistic but I don't understand how i would win NC. I think Democrats there are quite moderate, except for some cities. And I think I would win Colorado and NH. If Indiana and West Virginia is that close, I should also win Wisconsin, but pretty happy with that map.

In such a scenario, I expect more a map like that.

with a surprise victory in Alaska, and losing Virginia because of a (very) populist progressive message.

Will make a map of Politician, AndreyValeriovich and Hillgoose later.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Democratic Primary: AndriyValeriovich vs Politician

Politician wins the primary while AV wins the WWC vote, while winning black vote and social conservative Democrats and older Democrats. Politician wins the establishment, hispanics, liberals, college educated whites and young people.

General election:

Politician 407 EV's
HillGoose 131 EV's

[😥]

Democratic Primary: AndriyValeriovich vs Politician

Politician wins the primary while AV wins the WWC vote, while winning black vote and social conservative Democrats and older Democrats. Politician wins the establishment, hispanics, liberals, college educated whites and young people.

General election:

Politician 407 EV's
HillGoose 131 EV's

I think that I would win Texas in this primary, because Democrats in Texas are socially conservative

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Well if you would win, your GE map (i still think you narrowly lose Texas, but maybe it's enough to win, especially if Texas is a close race).

No offense to HillGoose but he would be a bad candidate for the Republicans. HillGoose is not your typical Republican, while you would be able to swing populist socially conservative / economically center / center-left / left-wing away from Republicans, just like historically while with Politician as VP be able to hold on to the current Democratic base.

HillGoose would be a Goldwater-like candidate. Someone who shape up the future his party, but not a winnable candidate.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Two GE maps in the case AV wins the D primary or Politician wins the primary. I announce my candidacy for the Republican Party and run on a hard protectionist, single-payer universal healthcare, pro-life, pro-death sentence, acceptance of LGBTQ candidates and recognizing same-sex marriage, the Green New Deal, building more nuclear energy, rebuilding our infrastructure, decreasing military expense, legalizing marijuana and pardonning criminals, buying Greenland, statehood for Puerto Rico, pro-Russia, anti-China, tough on hard crimes, libertarian on foreign policy candidate, very tough on immigration candidate platform. Basically a modern Theodore Roosevelt or a modern Huey Long type Republican. (i know he was a Democrat).

Lakigigar (Republican) vs AndritValeriovich (Democrat)

I don't know exactly your views, but based on your endorsements and your description socially conservative, economically liberal, it would be a close race. I would immediately tag you with the pro-establishment.

It's probably a weird map, where AV wins mainly blacks, blue dogs, establishment republicans and modern liberals while I win Yang Gang type candidates, Trump Republicans, libertarians, non-partisan progressives / socialists, anti-government dudes and make inroads with hispanics, except in Florida.

AV / Politician 313 EV's
Lakigigar / Gabbard 225 EV's

Lakigigar (Republican) vs Politician (Democrat)

I see Politician as a mainstream establishment liberal

Politician / Jared Polis 269 EV's
Lakigigar / Gabbard 269 EV's

Politician wins because some electors vote against their pledged candidates, and in my case pledge their vote for real conservatives like Evan McMullin, Ted Cruz and Mike Pence, as well as establishment Republicans like Colin Powell

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Primary between Lakigigar, Politician and AV

AV is Red
Politician is blue
I'm Green

AV wins the Democratic primary with his moderate and socially conservative message. Politician wins in states that favour the establishment while i win in states with many young people, hispanics and anti-establishment sentiment, supported by Sanders and Gabbard mainly.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Lakgigar

The man is both the last two posters, how can I compete with that?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Two way primary Peebs and me

Peebs wins Maryland and New Jersey

Democrat Lakigigar
Independent Andriy Valeriovich

Closest states
Wisconsin
Iowa
North Dakota
Pennsylvania
New Hampshire
Connecticut

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Lakigagar | Peebs | Muaddib

[RC (a la Frémont)]

Muaddib/Wazza (Australia First Party) - 263 EVs
ReaganClinton/Bruhgmger2 (Liberal Party) - 253 EVs
Lakigagar/SNJC (Independent) - 21 EVs

[LAKISYLVANIA]

SNJC as my running mate? lol

Muaddib
ReaganClinton

Lakigigar 283 EV's
Muaddib 253 EV's

I would have lost against ReaganClinton in a mini-landslide though. But Laki vs Muaddib is more like Sanders vs Cruz.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

ReaganClinton
Muaddib
Lakigigar



for Belgium

[Politician]

Lakigigar runs to my left and wins the primary comfortably, gaining Bernie Sanders' endorsement and receiving the majority of grassroots support.

Following Lakigigar's selection of Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate, ReaganClinton runs as a center-left independent and attracts the support of wealthy suburban Democrats. As no-one gains a majority, the election is thrown to the House, and Muaddib is elected president despite Lakigigar easily winning the popular vote. ReaganClinton becomes the most hated person in progressive circles.

[538Electoral]

Primaries

I won a close contest against FDB in the Republican primaries.

General

I win a comfortable victory over Politician in the general election. 335-203 thanks to my proximity to the Rust Belt. I campaigned in the west while Politician ignored the west due to his assumption that Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico were safely Democratic. I won in Nevada and Arizona and just barely lost in Colorado.

I targeted Virginia as a strategy against losing the Rust Belt and to show Atlas that Virginia is winnable for Republicans again. I pulled it off and also won in North Carolina, Georgia and Florida.

Politician targeted the Rust Belt. I held on to the Rust Belt thanks to me being from Ohio and running on Trump like platforms on the economy and taxes, I even took Minnesota with me and won Ohio by 15%.

I conceded New Hampshire and Maine at large thanks to Politician being from Massachusetts. ME-02 was much closer than in 2016 but I won ME-02 by 2%.

I won the national popular vote by almost 4%.

Results

538Electoral (R-OH) - 335 electoral votes, 50.7%
Politician (D-MA) - 203 electoral votes, 47.1%