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« on: April 01, 2018, 08:40:48 PM »


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The voters of Oklahoma want better-funded schools, higher paid teachers, and increases in particular taxes (especially on high incomes); the children of Oklahoma deserve smaller classroom sizes, up-to-date and readily available textbooks and materials, and an educational environment conducive to learning. What the teachers are striking for is exactly what the people of Oklahoma need and support. Every student deserves an excellent and equal education; not one stifled by the state so that more money can be given to corporations and the rich. A child's education is far more important than some multi-billion dollar company's profits. A teacher's ability to live a decent life on their salary is far more important than protecting some rich person's ability to purchase their next McMansion in a community where their child will have access to the high-quality education being denied to countless others.

Let's hope this becomes a wave of teacher strikes across America and slams every state where education has been cut, educators denied proper wages, and students prevented from obtaining a good education. In the state of Oklahoma, where Bernie Sanders won more primary voters than any other single Republican or Democrat, there is hope for progressive reform. Stand with Oklahoma and stand with the striking teachers.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 08:43:10 PM »

The Republicans are so bad at governing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 08:51:54 PM »

The Republicans are so bad at governing.

They are addicted to tax cuts

https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/definition-of-addiction/

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1. Tax cuts
2. Cutting taxes too much (or refusing to raise them when needed) and/or too fast causes harm to economy
3. More tax cuts are pursued despite initial harm
4. By passing giant, non-stop tax cuts, Republicans seek favorable treatment from voters, leading to election wins, leading to pleasure


There is nothing wrong with trying to maintain reasonable tax rates and trying to weed out actual burdensome regulations, but Republicans have gone off the deep end with this stuff. It's at the point where they are driving states into the ground and blowing up the national debt for pretty much no useful purpose. The only problem is that raising taxes or accepting the idea that some regulations are OK is so foreign to them at this point that they reject it like a body rejects a bad transplant organ. Looking at the dissents of some Republicans in KS/OK, it's like these people don't care if the govt, schools and hospitals had to permanently shut down. They are 100% anti-govt and anti-tax to the point where any raise, no matter what, is unacceptable. I can't think of a more irresponsible person to have any power whatsoever in government.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2018, 08:53:06 PM »

Supply side economics most certainly does not work in commodity based economics.

Reaganomics ironically is an amalgamation of the commodity producing areas desire for regulatory relief and the suburbs demand for an end to stagflation. But the latter does not work in the former area, because the global fluctuations in the price of oil are eratic and state tax policy has little impact. It is the most blatant example of trying to push on a string.

States should try to balance tax levels with maximum sales of the commodity so as to maximize revenue for the sole purpose of diversifying said economies by investing in infrastructure, education and the like.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 08:53:41 PM »

The Republicans are so bad at governing.

With the exception of a few moderates, they don't try to govern. They just try to do the bidding on their donors.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2018, 08:55:10 PM »

The Republicans are so bad at governing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2018, 08:57:18 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2018, 09:13:04 PM »

Kentucky:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/education/2018/04/01/kentucky-schools-closed-monday-teachers-fight-budget-frankfort/476977002/

[quote]Northern Kentucky schools will be shut down again Monday as teachers head to the state Capitol to protest a budget bill they say will gut educational funding.

Many schools were closed Friday after teachers called in sick to protest the unexpected, last-minute passage of a controversial pension reform bill.

Holmes Middle School teacher Courtney Sorrell said she expects thousands of teachers from all across the state to be in Frankfort on Monday. Teachers from her district, Covington Independent Schools, are meeting at 6 a.m. to carpool.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2018, 09:13:11 PM »

I read about teachers yesterday in Oklahoma. I was heartbroken at the fact that many of these teachers literally work around so many different jobs regularly. One of the teachers taught Algebra in high school, drove a bus in the afternoon, coaches wrestling, coaches football, umpires little league baseball, and does driving services such as Uber and Lyft. Even after all of this, he said it brings home $36,000 a year after taxes.

I don't know how y'all feel, but it seems pretty ridiculous that so many hard-working people aren't doing very well at all. It's very ironic to me that some of the politicians that supposedly value hard work (and at times, call out the lazy) also refuse to give these determined people what they actually deserve.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 10:58:10 PM »

I read about teachers yesterday in Oklahoma. I was heartbroken at the fact that many of these teachers literally work around so many different jobs regularly. One of the teachers taught Algebra in high school, drove a bus in the afternoon, coaches wrestling, coaches football, umpires little league baseball, and does driving services such as Uber and Lyft. Even after all of this, he said it brings home $36,000 a year after taxes.

I don't know how y'all feel, but it seems pretty ridiculous that so many hard-working people aren't doing very well at all. It's very ironic to me that some of the politicians that supposedly value hard work (and at times, call out the lazy) also refuse to give these determined people what they actually deserve.

According to George W Bush, having to work three jobs is a uniquely American value.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2018, 08:28:26 AM »

Capitalism doesn't see it as a bug, It's a feature.

Social mobility is gone and the ruling class will put every possible roadblock in your way, lack of quality public schools for those who can't afford it and subpar wages for teachers is just one of these roadblocks. Betsy DeVos is pefect to carry the intereats of the capitalists.
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »

Republicans think tax cuts pay for themselves...turns out the way they pay for themselves is screwing over kid's futures.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2018, 11:39:40 PM »

Oklahoma enacted a half billion dollar raise in taxes last week and teachers are going to be getting a $6 K average raise, with an additional $50 million for schools.  Teacher unions are still on strike, saying it isn't enough, with no end in sight.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/02/598739415/oklahoma-teachers-set-for-statewide-walkout-amid-continued-pay-dispute
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 12:45:08 AM »

inb4 krazen

Anyway, great news!
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2018, 10:10:10 PM »

Oklahoma enacted a half billion dollar raise in taxes last week and teachers are going to be getting a $6 K average raise, with an additional $50 million for schools.  Teacher unions are still on strike, saying it isn't enough, with no end in sight.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/02/598739415/oklahoma-teachers-set-for-statewide-walkout-amid-continued-pay-dispute

Republican government in red state raises taxes on oil and cigarettes to give teachers a pay raise and the Democrats still aren’t happy. Shocker. Props to Oklahoma for listening to its citizens and acting though. It sounds like the situation there really was unacceptable.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2018, 10:16:55 PM »

Mobilize the National Guard asap and get these kiddos back in school.  How terrible for the parents.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2018, 11:19:16 PM »

Mobilize the National Guard asap and get these kiddos back in school.  How terrible for the parents.

It would certainly be interesting to see the National Guard look after the kiddos until this situation gets sorted. Might help show that teaching is a lot harder than people think. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 05:29:20 AM »

Oklahoma enacted a half billion dollar raise in taxes last week and teachers are going to be getting a $6 K average raise, with an additional $50 million for schools.  Teacher unions are still on strike, saying it isn't enough, with no end in sight.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/02/598739415/oklahoma-teachers-set-for-statewide-walkout-amid-continued-pay-dispute

Republican government in red state raises taxes on oil and cigarettes to give teachers a pay raise and the Democrats still aren’t happy. Shocker. Props to Oklahoma for listening to its citizens and acting though. It sounds like the situation there really was unacceptable.

That's because they like to also have enough teachers and textbooks to be schools rather than child warehouses.  Low teacher pay was but one part of the neglect Oklahoma paid its schools.
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