Bernie Sanders thought most drug dealers in the US were black (they aren't)

[James Monroe]

Bernard grew up in a white bubble. No POC was on his congressional staff, and the Vermont NAACP has never received feedback from the senator. Meanwhile, Vermont has the highest black incarnation rates in the country and Bernard doesn't lift his waving finger to help activate change in his state government. For all the civil right activism in his youth he decides it was best to move from a sizable minority population in New York to the whitest state in the nation.  Should it come to a surprise to non-cultists that Bernie has racial prejudices towards POC?

Oh f**k you. I live in a state that's not as white as Vermont, but is stereotypically pretty white, and there's plenty of reasons people have left more diverse states for here. They're not white supremacists. The insinuation someone from Alabama, Mississippi or Texas moving to Minnesota or Wisconsin is committing a racist act is quite disgusting. Even in Bernie's case there's about a gazillion reasons to not want to live in Brooklyn. Maybe some people would just prefer to live somewhere where you can get an actual livable living space for less than $2000/month (or whatever the equivalent was when Bernie left Brooklyn, it was probably less than $2000 in the equivalent amount of money at the time, but it's not like NYC was cheap then.)

But of course you just hide behind that because you just have to grasp at any straws for your hate. You have an extreme pathological hatred of Bernie. It reminds me of Trumpists honestly. Just pure, undistilled hate.

My words didn't mean anyone who wanted to relocated to whiter states were racist, as that's not what I find distasteful about Bernie's leaving Brooklyn. If you find the financial affordability of states with high white population to be more stable, by all means relocate and enjoy the party. In the mid-60's the price of living in Brooklyn would've been substantially lower then today's gentrification hell that is a hotspot for young affluent white people.  What Bernie found disapproving of his native city that made shift boats to a largely rural state in the middle of nowhere, I'm not clear. There was a New York migration around that time frame when many would jump ship and headed to Vermont, including Howard Dean. What I found concerning is that we have this candidate who's being headed by his supporters as being this great champion of minorities when he's done nothing but focus his attention everywhere else. Just think about why many POC voters were strongly backing Hillary Clinton, even if she came with more name recognition and built political clout with the community for many years as First Lady of Arkansas and the nation.

Before the primary I was ok with Bernie Sanders, even if his ideology is unpractical in this nation. When the primary started to heat up and his fans harassed many Hillary supporters, when Bernie went negative on Hillary by calling her corrupt and unqualified. The final straw was when Bernie went out of his way to appeal Trump voters by criticizing political correctness, how we should just focus on the white working class while ignoring the needs of working class minorities. With his touring around the country what I see is a populist demagogue who's not serving the people he intends, but a politician only looking for the spotlight.

[King of Kensington]

Sanders does have a tone deafness (as does his spokespeople) that can't be simply blamed on Hillary shills and "identity politics".

[Doimper]

I think I've finally gotten to the point where I regret voting for Sanders.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think I've finally gotten to the point where I regret voting for Sanders.

Why? He might've won, Hillary didn't. With hindsight there is zero reason to not support him unless you prefer Trump.

[James Monroe]

How could Bernie have won when he couldn't even win the primary?  What political gains would Bernie Sanders have made as the candidate in the general election against Trump?

[Rookie Yinzer]

Sanders does have a tone deafness (as does his spokespeople) that can't be simply blamed on Hillary shills and "identity politics".

[Mr. Smith]

How could Bernie have won when he couldn't even win the primary?  What political gains would Bernie Sanders have made as the candidate in the general election against Trump?

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan for starters.

[YE]

Bernard grew up in a white bubble. No POC was on his congressional staff, and the Vermont NAACP has never received feedback from the senator. Meanwhile, Vermont has the highest black incarnation rates in the country and Bernard doesn't lift his waving finger to help activate change in his state government. For all the civil right activism in his youth he decides it was best to move from a sizable minority population in New York to the whitest state in the nation.  Should it come to a surprise to non-cultists that Bernie has racial prejudices towards POC?

Oh f**k you. I live in a state that's not as white as Vermont, but is stereotypically pretty white, and there's plenty of reasons people have left more diverse states for here. They're not white supremacists. The insinuation someone from Alabama, Mississippi or Texas moving to Minnesota or Wisconsin is committing a racist act is quite disgusting. Even in Bernie's case there's about a gazillion reasons to not want to live in Brooklyn. Maybe some people would just prefer to live somewhere where you can get an actual livable living space for less than $2000/month (or whatever the equivalent was when Bernie left Brooklyn, it was probably less than $2000 in the equivalent amount of money at the time, but it's not like NYC was cheap then.)

But of course you just hide behind that because you just have to grasp at any straws for your hate. You have an extreme pathological hatred of Bernie. It reminds me of Trumpists honestly. Just pure, undistilled hate.

My words didn't mean anyone who wanted to relocated to whiter states were racist, as that's not what I find distasteful about Bernie's leaving Brooklyn. If you find the financial affordability of states with high white population to be more stable, by all means relocate and enjoy the party. In the mid-60's the price of living in Brooklyn would've been substantially lower then today's gentrification hell that is a hotspot for young affluent white people.  What Bernie found disapproving of his native city that made shift boats to a largely rural state in the middle of nowhere, I'm not clear. There was a New York migration around that time frame when many would jump ship and headed to Vermont, including Howard Dean. What I found concerning is that we have this candidate who's being headed by his supporters as being this great champion of minorities when he's done nothing but focus his attention everywhere else. Just think about why many POC voters were strongly backing Hillary Clinton, even if she came with more name recognition and built political clout with the community for many years as First Lady of Arkansas and the nation.

Before the primary I was ok with Bernie Sanders, even if his ideology is unpractical in this nation. When the primary started to heat up and his fans harassed many Hillary supporters, when Bernie went negative on Hillary by calling her corrupt and unqualified. The final straw was when Bernie went out of his way to appeal Trump voters by criticizing political correctness, how we should just focus on the white working class while ignoring the needs of working class minorities. With his touring around the country what I see is a populist demagogue who's not serving the people he intends, but a politician only looking for the spotlight.

Yea it's not like minorities wouldn't benefit for medicare for all or anything. And your evidence that's he's not serving the people he intends is based on what? I get it that you (or whoever you're trying to parody) are quite sensitive (understandably so), but I urge everyone here with the 2020 elections around the corner to think rationally. Like how would a Bernie Sanders presidency differ on racial issues from say a Kamala Harris one? Do you think Harris would get something different done than Sanders? Would a Sanders presidency somehow open the door for a segregationist wing of the party? I've argued repeatedly that I think Sanders's vision is for a grasroots party that cares about the interest of working people and focuses on policy substance rather than supporting criminal justice reform because its a way of looking progressive without the expense of donor money while also shaming people into voting for them.

Honestly, I'll bring something up that I kinda think is interesting, even if it may be obvious to some. I suspect some blacks share something that's been declining in the US for decades. Trust in politicians. Not any different to how the populist wings of both parties don't trust the establishment, even if the source for distrust is something totally different.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

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Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

Having the best platform according to Campaign Zero would be a step in that direction. Of course you'd rather just straw man his positions.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

"WILL REGULATING WALL STREET SOLVE RACISM?!?!?! NO?? THEN WHY DO IT?" - Some dumb greek asshole.

Isn't it wonderful how people who fundamentally like the status quo and don't want to change it in any substantial way are always able to shut down any talk of reform because it doesn't address some other social problem?

[Doimper]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

"WILL REGULATING WALL STREET SOLVE RACISM?!?!?! NO?? THEN WHY DO IT?" - Some dumb greek asshole.

Isn't it wonderful how people who fundamentally like the status quo and don't want to change it in any substantial way are always able to shut down any talk of reform because it doesn't address some other social problem?

Was LL disputing the validity of bank reform/higher taxation? I don't think he was saying we shouldn't do those things (to some extent), just that Sanders focused on those issues at the expense of racial ones.

[Famous Mortimer]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

No candidate is going to end the policy of forcing cops to kill unarmed Black people because such a policy does not exist.

[TheRocketRaccoon]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

"WILL REGULATING WALL STREET SOLVE RACISM?!?!?! NO?? THEN WHY DO IT?" - Some dumb greek asshole.

Isn't it wonderful how people who fundamentally like the status quo and don't want to change it in any substantial way are always able to shut down any talk of reform because it doesn't address some other social problem?

Was LL disputing the validity of bank reform/higher taxation? I don't think he was saying we shouldn't do those things (to some extent), just that Sanders focused on those issues at the expense of racial ones.

Fake news, reading comprehension is for neoliberals.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Maybe you should actually follow Bernie's Twitter. He's said a lot about preserving DACA.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

"WILL REGULATING WALL STREET SOLVE RACISM?!?!?! NO?? THEN WHY DO IT?" - Some dumb greek asshole.

Isn't it wonderful how people who fundamentally like the status quo and don't want to change it in any substantial way are always able to shut down any talk of reform because it doesn't address some other social problem?

Was LL disputing the validity of bank reform/higher taxation? I don't think he was saying we shouldn't do those things (to some extent), just that Sanders focused on those issues at the expense of racial ones.

Sanders has literally said that solving economic inequality will automatically solve the problem of racism and social inequality. Which is of course a totally absurd statement.
But I guess it's too much to expect from Bernie cultists even a modicum of intellectual honesty.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Sanders has not “literally said that solving economic inequality will automatically solve the problem of racism and social inequality.” He’s said that they’re fundamentally connected. Which, uh, they are. The same capitalist economy that certain Democratic politicians consistently promote and benefit from systematically disempowers and disenfranchises black people and other “people of color” - along with many whites obviously.

Sanders’s message and policy views are not only morally just, they’re popular. And he may not always be the best messenger and he may be clumsy rhetoric-wise or come off a bit ignorant or silly at times, but you can’t say the man isn’t sincere and didn’t run an extraordinarly strong campaign that was based on concrete issues and clear-as-day principles, in contrast to the resume-padding Glass Ceiling-breaker who had been preparing to run/actually running for President for at least a decade and a half, almost certainly longer (“I’m the most qualified! I have lots of experience!” yeah Hillary your experience had a lot of baggage attached, to say the least).

Not bad for a self-described Democratic Socialist who outside of Vermont, was a virtual unknown among voters outside the left-wing/grassroots activist world. Not bad at all.

[The Mikado]

Hillary literally called young black men 'superpredators' this is nothing.

25 years ago. In support of a 1994 Crime Bill that Bernie Sanders voted for in the House. But yes, Clinton using that word at the time is worse than Bernie Sanders voting for the very same piece of legislation.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Maybe I'm naive, but I think taxing Wall Street and breaking up big banks won't make the cops stop killing unarmed blacks.
Or the ICE stop deporting Dreamers.

"WILL REGULATING WALL STREET SOLVE RACISM?!?!?! NO?? THEN WHY DO IT?" - Some dumb greek asshole.

Isn't it wonderful how people who fundamentally like the status quo and don't want to change it in any substantial way are always able to shut down any talk of reform because it doesn't address some other social problem?

Why can't people care about economics and accept that this was a problematic statement?

[The Mikado]

Black people in the US commit crime at a much higher rate than White people in the US. To ask if that pattern holds true with drug dealing (whatever the answer happens to be) is not an unreasonable question. If asking such a question counts as "racism" then it is clear that "racism" has such a broad definition that it is impossible to make informed social policy in this country without being "racist".

Bernie didn't say higher rate, he said most. Most would require blacks to be about 5x as involved in drug sales and is close to impossible.

12% of the population doesn't sell 50% of the drugs.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Hillarymen are deranged.

[Sirius_]

HillaryBerniemen are deranged.

Hillary<InsertpoliticianthatIdon'tlike>men are deranged.

[James Monroe]

Hillarymen are deranged.

Says the bros who keep padding Bernie would've won.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Hillarymen are deranged.

Says the bros who keep padding Bernie would've won.

He would've. Stop kidding yourself.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Hillarymen are deranged.

Says the bros who keep padding Bernie would've won.

He would've. Stop kidding yourself.

The establishment has to always insist that their candidates are the most electable since they aren't going to win primaries on the basis of their terrible positions.