Who Would the WW2 and Beyond Presidents that Aren't Alive Have Endorsed?

[uti2]

I think Reagan basically would be very similar to a Mitt Romney today


And didn’t Mitt Romeny support Rubio

Jeb thought Rubio would be a personal ally for him in the senate advocating the Bush family's interests. Romney was neutral in the primary, but he eventually advocated for voting for whoever was closest to Trump in a given state.

You could argue Rubio was basically like Bush 2.0(More like W Bush than Jeb)

- Rubio and W Bush both were Neo-Cons

- His tax plan was very very similar to W Bush original 2003 one(Where W Bush supported eliminating taxes on dividends)

- Both Rubio and W Bush were pretty liberal for Republicans on education policy and immigration

While Rubio is more conservative than W Bush on healthcare policy(Im sure if Rubio was in the Senate then he voted for Medicare Part D) but W Bush is more conservative on Social Policy

Jeb was Bush 2, Rubio was to the right of Bush 2. Bush had corporate tax rates at 35%, and he only wanted dividend taxes eliminated because of double taxation since he thought 35% was too high to be double taxed. Rubio wanted it both ways, he wanted corporate tax rates slashed to 20% combined with no dividend taxes, and he wanted zero capital gains taxes.

Jeb was one of the original members of PNAC, he's one of the original neocons, Rubio didn't even know what a neocon was until he met Jeb.



Bush supported No Child Left Behind, Rubio attacked Jeb for supporting Common Core, which is basically the modern equivalent to No Child Left Behind.

Bush funded Planned Parenthood, in contrast, Rubio wanted to shut the government down over funding Planned Parenthood, Jeb opposed shutting down the government and Bush 2/Jeb supported abortion exceptions, Rubio didn't.

Rubio sponsored this bill : http://theweek.com/speedreads/449808/marco-rubio-introduces-bipartisan-student-loan-bill

and NCLB and Common Core were already unpopular by even many Democrats when Rubio came out against it.


Bush also wanted to pass a constitutional amendment what banned gay marriage

Rubio's student loan plan was still to the right of Jeb's own student loan plan:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/251850-bush-embraces-same-tuition-free-program-as-obama

[OSR stands with Israel]

I think Reagan basically would be very similar to a Mitt Romney today


And didn’t Mitt Romeny support Rubio

Jeb thought Rubio would be a personal ally for him in the senate advocating the Bush family's interests. Romney was neutral in the primary, but he eventually advocated for voting for whoever was closest to Trump in a given state.

You could argue Rubio was basically like Bush 2.0(More like W Bush than Jeb)

- Rubio and W Bush both were Neo-Cons

- His tax plan was very very similar to W Bush original 2003 one(Where W Bush supported eliminating taxes on dividends)

- Both Rubio and W Bush were pretty liberal for Republicans on education policy and immigration

While Rubio is more conservative than W Bush on healthcare policy(Im sure if Rubio was in the Senate then he voted for Medicare Part D) but W Bush is more conservative on Social Policy

Jeb was Bush 2, Rubio was to the right of Bush 2. Bush had corporate tax rates at 35%, and he only wanted dividend taxes eliminated because of double taxation since he thought 35% was too high to be double taxed. Rubio wanted it both ways, he wanted corporate tax rates slashed to 20% combined with no dividend taxes, and he wanted zero capital gains taxes.

Jeb was one of the original members of PNAC, he's one of the original neocons, Rubio didn't even know what a neocon was until he met Jeb.



Bush supported No Child Left Behind, Rubio attacked Jeb for supporting Common Core, which is basically the modern equivalent to No Child Left Behind.

Bush funded Planned Parenthood, in contrast, Rubio wanted to shut the government down over funding Planned Parenthood, Jeb opposed shutting down the government and Bush 2/Jeb supported abortion exceptions, Rubio didn't.

Rubio sponsored this bill : http://theweek.com/speedreads/449808/marco-rubio-introduces-bipartisan-student-loan-bill

and NCLB and Common Core were already unpopular by even many Democrats when Rubio came out against it.


Bush also wanted to pass a constitutional amendment what banned gay marriage

Rubio's student loan plan was still to the right of Jeb's own student loan plan:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/251850-bush-embraces-same-tuition-free-program-as-obama

I felt Rubio was Bush 2004

Jeb was Bush 2000 Domestic Policy while Bush 2004 on Foreign Policy

Kasich was McCain 2008

[uti2]

I think Reagan basically would be very similar to a Mitt Romney today


And didn’t Mitt Romeny support Rubio

Jeb thought Rubio would be a personal ally for him in the senate advocating the Bush family's interests. Romney was neutral in the primary, but he eventually advocated for voting for whoever was closest to Trump in a given state.

You could argue Rubio was basically like Bush 2.0(More like W Bush than Jeb)

- Rubio and W Bush both were Neo-Cons

- His tax plan was very very similar to W Bush original 2003 one(Where W Bush supported eliminating taxes on dividends)

- Both Rubio and W Bush were pretty liberal for Republicans on education policy and immigration

While Rubio is more conservative than W Bush on healthcare policy(Im sure if Rubio was in the Senate then he voted for Medicare Part D) but W Bush is more conservative on Social Policy

Jeb was Bush 2, Rubio was to the right of Bush 2. Bush had corporate tax rates at 35%, and he only wanted dividend taxes eliminated because of double taxation since he thought 35% was too high to be double taxed. Rubio wanted it both ways, he wanted corporate tax rates slashed to 20% combined with no dividend taxes, and he wanted zero capital gains taxes.

Jeb was one of the original members of PNAC, he's one of the original neocons, Rubio didn't even know what a neocon was until he met Jeb.



Bush supported No Child Left Behind, Rubio attacked Jeb for supporting Common Core, which is basically the modern equivalent to No Child Left Behind.

Bush funded Planned Parenthood, in contrast, Rubio wanted to shut the government down over funding Planned Parenthood, Jeb opposed shutting down the government and Bush 2/Jeb supported abortion exceptions, Rubio didn't.

Rubio sponsored this bill : http://theweek.com/speedreads/449808/marco-rubio-introduces-bipartisan-student-loan-bill

and NCLB and Common Core were already unpopular by even many Democrats when Rubio came out against it.


Bush also wanted to pass a constitutional amendment what banned gay marriage

Rubio's student loan plan was still to the right of Jeb's own student loan plan:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/251850-bush-embraces-same-tuition-free-program-as-obama

I felt Rubio was Bush 2004

Jeb was Bush 2000 Domestic Policy while Bush 2004 on Foreign Policy

Kasich was McCain 2008

Kasich was Bush 2000, Jeb was Bush 2004, there was no equivalent to Mccain running, Mccain wanted campaign finance reform, opposed entitlement cuts, supported gun control, and wanted cap & trade.

[uti2]

I think Reagan actually would first endorse Jeb but switch his endorsement to Rubio after Iowa.


Those two were the establishment candidates so I think his endorsements would go to one of them

The Bush section of the establishment (the section Reagan relates to) went from Jeb to Cruz.

[Free Bird]

FDR: O’Malley or Sanders, Clinton
Truman: Webb, Clinton
Eisenhower: Pataki or Paul, McMullin
JFK: Clinton, Clinton
LBJ: Webb, Clinton
Nixon: Graham, McMullin
Ford: Kasich, McMullin
Reagan: Rubio, Trump

And just for fun...
Hoover: Kasich, Johnson
Landon: Walker, Trump
Willkie: Kasich, Clinton
Dewey: Kasich, McMullin
Stevenson: O’Malley or Sanders, Clinton
Goldwater: Paul, Johnson
Humphrey: Clinton, Clinton
McGovern: Sanders, Clinton
Mondale: Clinton, Clinton

Mondale is still with us...

[Kleine Scheiße]

Ah, yes, I was thinking of Ferarro. Post edited.

[MATTROSE94]

I think that the only former Presidents who would have voted for Donald Trump would have been Andrew Jackson, John Tyler, James Polk, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Herbert Hoover, and Richard Nixon. Thomas Jefferson, Grover Cleveland, William McKinley, William Howard Taft, Warren Harding, and Calvin Coolidge, on the other hand, would have supported Gary Johnson. All the other Presidents would have likely voted for Hillary Clinton, albeit with varying levels of enthusiasm.

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

I felt Rubio was Bush 2004

Jeb was Bush 2000 Domestic Policy while Bush 2004 on Foreign Policy

Kasich was McCain 2008

Kasich was Bush 2000, Jeb was Bush 2004, there was no equivalent to Mccain running, Mccain wanted campaign finance reform, opposed entitlement cuts, supported gun control, and wanted cap & trade.

We really need more Republicans who are willing to take gun control and climate change seriously. Campaign finance reform is also very important, but I'm not sure how much can or will get done on that front.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I think Reagan basically would be very similar to a Mitt Romney today


And didn’t Mitt Romeny support Rubio

Jeb thought Rubio would be a personal ally for him in the senate advocating the Bush family's interests. Romney was neutral in the primary, but he eventually advocated for voting for whoever was closest to Trump in a given state.

You could argue Rubio was basically like Bush 2.0(More like W Bush than Jeb)

- Rubio and W Bush both were Neo-Cons

- His tax plan was very very similar to W Bush original 2003 one(Where W Bush supported eliminating taxes on dividends)

- Both Rubio and W Bush were pretty liberal for Republicans on education policy and immigration

While Rubio is more conservative than W Bush on healthcare policy(Im sure if Rubio was in the Senate then he voted for Medicare Part D) but W Bush is more conservative on Social Policy

Jeb was Bush 2, Rubio was to the right of Bush 2. Bush had corporate tax rates at 35%, and he only wanted dividend taxes eliminated because of double taxation since he thought 35% was too high to be double taxed. Rubio wanted it both ways, he wanted corporate tax rates slashed to 20% combined with no dividend taxes, and he wanted zero capital gains taxes.

Jeb was one of the original members of PNAC, he's one of the original neocons, Rubio didn't even know what a neocon was until he met Jeb.



Bush supported No Child Left Behind, Rubio attacked Jeb for supporting Common Core, which is basically the modern equivalent to No Child Left Behind.

Bush funded Planned Parenthood, in contrast, Rubio wanted to shut the government down over funding Planned Parenthood, Jeb opposed shutting down the government and Bush 2/Jeb supported abortion exceptions, Rubio didn't.

Rubio sponsored this bill : http://theweek.com/speedreads/449808/marco-rubio-introduces-bipartisan-student-loan-bill

and NCLB and Common Core were already unpopular by even many Democrats when Rubio came out against it.


Bush also wanted to pass a constitutional amendment what banned gay marriage

Rubio's student loan plan was still to the right of Jeb's own student loan plan:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/251850-bush-embraces-same-tuition-free-program-as-obama

I felt Rubio was Bush 2004

Jeb was Bush 2000 Domestic Policy while Bush 2004 on Foreign Policy

Kasich was McCain 2008

Kasich was Bush 2000, Jeb was Bush 2004, there was no equivalent to Mccain running, Mccain wanted campaign finance reform, opposed entitlement cuts, supported gun control, and wanted cap & trade.

- Kasich supported some version of gun control as well: http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/262241-kasich-keep-guns-from-those-on-no-fly-list




- Kasich was a centrist on environmental issues and energy issues as a whole as well:

https://ballotpedia.org/John_Kasich_presidential_campaign,_2016/Natural_resources (Bush was pretty far to the right on these issues )


- McCain in 2008 took a much more right-wing position on entitlements
http://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/John_McCain_Social_Security.htm

[darklordoftech]

Humphrey*: Clinton
McGovern*: Sanders -> Clinton

* This would be an odd case where the former is ideologically closer to Sanders than Clinton and the latter actually had Clinton campaign for him, but I think the rhetoric would be key here.

Humphrey's rhetoric would likely be far more Sanders-like today. Humphrey was in politics in a time when labor unions controlled the Democratic nomination process and many Democratic seats in Congress, Governorships, and State Congresses, and campaign finance wasn't the issue that it is today. Humphrey would be disgusted by the Reagan air traffic incident, the DLC, NAFTA, the WTO, Right-to-work laws, the TPP, long work hours, low wages, bank deregulation, Wall Street donors, etc. and would support government spending on healthcare and education and higher minimum wage laws.

[darklordoftech]

Henry Wallace: Sanders, Stein in the general

[dw93]

Eisenhower: Kasich, Clinton
Kennedy: Clinton, Clinton
Johnson: Clinton, Clinton
Nixon: Kasich, abstain
Ford: Kasich, Trump
Reagan: Kasich, Trump

I think Nixon is more likely to support Trump than Ford and Reagan.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I think Reagan basically would be very similar to a Mitt Romney today


And didn’t Mitt Romeny support Rubio

Romney semi-endorsed Cruz (saying he was personally voting for him), but said he would campaign for any of Cruz/Rubio/Kasich in the states where they were running closest to Trump.  Essentially, he was a proponent of the brokered convention idea.

Anyway:
FDR: Sanders, Clinton
Truman: Clinton, Clinton
Eisenhower: Kasich, Abstain
Kennedy: Rubio, McMullin (there is no doubt that he would be a Republican today)
Johnson: Clinton, Clinton
Nixon: Trump, Trump
Ford: Pataki, Clinton
Reagan: Cruz/Rubio, Trump

[UlmerFudd]

FDR: Sanders, Clinton
Truman: Clinton, Clinton
Eisenhower: Pataki, Clinton
Kennedy: Clinton, Clinton
LBJ: Sanders, Clinton
Nixon: Christie, Trump
Ford: Kasich, Clinton
Reagan: Bush, Trump

[Lord Admirale]

FDR: Clinton, Clinton
Truman: Webb, Clinton
Eisenhower: Bush, Other
Kennedy: Clinton, Clinton
LBJ: Clinton, Clinton
Nixon: Kasich, McMullin
Ford: Kasich, Clinton
Reagan: Rubio, McMullin