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« on: March 22, 2018, 01:32:13 PM »

... Blacks and poor whites were fully enfranchised and allowed to vote freely?
I assume that most of the Deep South would have voted Republican if this was the case, but how close would the results have been and what would the county map(s) potentially look like?
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 02:11:51 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2018, 02:21:22 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 02:25:48 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


Wouldn't at least Mississippi and South Carolina be competitive, since they were majority-black?
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2018, 02:41:04 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


Wouldn't at least Mississippi and South Carolina be competitive, since they were majority-black?


If African Americans  were allowed to vote I don’t think Democrats would have even close to the same positions on civil rights as they did then in OTL(espically Democrats like Cleveland, Bryan and Wilson)
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2018, 04:07:02 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


Wouldn't at least Mississippi and South Carolina be competitive, since they were majority-black?


If African Americans  were allowed to vote I don’t think Democrats would have even close to the same positions on civil rights as they did then in OTL(espically Democrats like Cleveland, Bryan and Wilson)
That's a fair point. It's interesting to think about how they could have built a bi-racial coalition in the South in this scenario, and if that had happened, I imagine the Solid South would have held for much longer than it did irl, possibly still being around today even.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2018, 08:22:06 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


Seems about right. The only real differences in elections between 1880 and 1932 would be that the Deep South would have been a swing region (that would have voted Republican in 1888, 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1920, and 1928) and that the Republicans would have won the popular vote by decent margins in all elections except 1912.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2018, 11:17:40 PM »

I imagine there'd be 20 point or 30 point deficits in favor of Democrats instead of 50+.


Seems about right. The only real differences in elections between 1880 and 1932 would be that the Deep South would have been a swing region (that would have voted Republican in 1888, 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1920, and 1928) and that the Republicans would have won the popular vote by decent margins in all elections except 1912.

Actually, given how much The South loved Bryan's populism initially, and given how sympathetic The Populist Party was to black people initially...I'm pretty sure the margins would favor Bryan, even if only by about the same that Carter won in 1976.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 05:35:09 PM »

I can't see poor Southern whites being too enamored with the party of big business and Lincoln.
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