Trump Syria Bombing Megathread

[Inmate Trump]

So can someone honestly tell me what the missile strike has accomplished?

What was the goal here?

I thought this was a president who campaigned against this sort of thing and who derided Obama against the prospect of a military intervention in Syria.

[Fuzzy Bear]

So can someone honestly tell me what the missile strike has accomplished?

What was the goal here?

I thought this was a president who campaigned against this sort of thing and who derided Obama against the prospect of a military intervention in Syria.

Obama's problem in Syria was (A) his "red line" drawing, and (B) the fact that the Free Syrian Army never had a chance to win no matter what we did for them.

I suppose the attacks on Syria were OK.  Assad used chemical weapons on his own people, and that's not OK by any standard.  The thing that causes me concern is the presence of John Bolton in the Trump Administration.  My support for Trump has been, in no small measure, is because he wasn't a neocon.  Bolton is even worse than the average neocon.  I'll be looking carefully at what comes next.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

So can someone honestly tell me what the missile strike has accomplished?

What was the goal here?

I thought this was a president who campaigned against this sort of thing and who derided Obama against the prospect of a military intervention in Syria.

The front page of CNN is not full of 'New Trump Affair' 'Trump associates broke the law' 'More evidence of colluion'.

Mission accomplished indeed.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What else did you expect?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HL07R

Pro-Assad official says targeted bases were evacuated on Russian warning

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pro-Assad officials never lie, unlike the leaders of NATO.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Some people on here and social media need to chill out. Putin Nicholas isn't starting WWIII over Syerbia.

[Grizzly Bear]

Personally, I think its ridiculous that America and its allies are bombing the Syrian government, in order to provide close air support to Sunni Jihadist Rebels, over a unconfirmed gas attack (first they claimed it was Nerve gas, then Sarin gas, now their saying its "Chlorine", when in reality it was probably dust from a conventional explosion).

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

"Mission Accomplished"... where have I heard that one before?

Anyways, still waiting for evidence that Assad attacked his own people...

[Coastal Elitist]

Some people on here and social media need to chill out. Putin Nicholas isn't starting WWIII over Syerbia.

This isn't the early 1900's. We have nuclear weapons now.

[GoTfan]

"Mission Accomplished"... where have I heard that one before?

Anyways, still waiting for evidence that Assad attacked his own people...

It just doesn't make sense. Assad basically won the war months ago, so it makes no sense for him to chemically attack his own people knowing that it would bring Western intervention down on him.

Something doesn't add up here.

[Crumpets]

"Mission Accomplished"... where have I heard that one before?

Anyways, still waiting for evidence that Assad attacked his own people...

It just doesn't make sense. Assad basically won the war months ago, so it makes no sense for him to chemically attack his own people knowing that it would bring Western intervention down on him.

Something doesn't add up here.

Assad has been consistantly using chemical weapons on a smaller scale for years. The reason he used them in Douma was because negotiations over evacuations broke down when Jaysh al-Islam apparently assassinated their own negotiator. And as one Syria analyst put it - Douma is a "meatgrinder" that neither Assad, Russia, Iran, or Hezbollah had any appetite to actually fight in. It was a choice between a weeks-long campaign to take the city risking thousands of troops, or trying to get Jaysh al-Islam back to the negotiating table with a chemical attack, risking an airstrike that he would have plenty of warning to limit the damage. When you consider that Jaysh al-Islam did indeed return to the negotiating table within hours of the chemical attack and evacuated the city by the end of the week, all in all, using chemical weapons was a massive strategic victory for Assad.

[NOVA Green]

If the situation in Syria is bad enough that we need to drop bombs, then by definition it is bad enough that we should be accepting Syrian refugees. It is beyond disgraceful that we are not.

[NOVA Green]

F**k the 89 Senators who voted to increase the war machine by another $80 billion a year.

Pls post a list for "Name and Shame"....

In the words of Alice Di Micele (Folk Artist from Southern Oregon), we need to listen to "Dismantle" off her first album... Please purchase digitally, since I already bought her first few albums on Cassette Tapes decades back, but believe artists should get paid for their works, so when I link to YouTube post only songs/links for albums that I have already purchased.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_DiMicele

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozSI1Vv27PY

"This is a Song to dismantle the War Machine"....

With you jfern on principle... lost a good friend in Iraq in '04 outside of Taji / Camp Cooke, and am extremely skeptical when it comes to Democratic and Republican Political leaders alike when it comes to issues such as War and Peace....

[NOVA Green]

"Mission Accomplished"... where have I heard that one before?

Anyways, still waiting for evidence that Assad attacked his own people...

It just doesn't make sense. Assad basically won the war months ago, so it makes no sense for him to chemically attack his own people knowing that it would bring Western intervention down on him.

Something doesn't add up here.

Assad has been consistantly using chemical weapons on a smaller scale for years. The reason he used them in Douma was because negotiations over evacuations broke down when Jaysh al-Islam apparently assassinated their own negotiator. And as one Syria analyst put it - Douma is a "meatgrinder" that neither Assad, Russia, Iran, or Hezbollah had any appetite to actually fight in. It was a choice between a weeks-long campaign to take the city risking thousands of troops, or trying to get Jaysh al-Islam back to the negotiating table with a chemical attack, risking an airstrike that he would have plenty of warning to limit the damage. When you consider that Jaysh al-Islam did indeed return to the negotiating table within hours of the chemical attack and evacuated the city by the end of the week, all in all, using chemical weapons was a massive strategic victory for Assad.

Wow Crumpets---- I've been wondering for a few weeks now why Syria/Russia  launched these chemical weapons attacks now at this current time, originally thinking they were testing Trump's "Withdrawal from Syria" plan, but your take on it actually makes tons more sense than any other explanation I had seen to date....

[ProudModerate2]

... The thing that causes me concern is the presence of John Bolton in the Trump Administration.

Fuzzy,
The "thing that causes concern" is not John Bolton in the trump Administration ... but is trump himself.

Besides, if we didn't have trump there wouldn't be no Bolton, or clowns like Ben Carson, or Russian operatives like Michael Flynn or presidential lawyers who specialize in paying porn stars for their silence.
It's one big circus full of chaos. Blame the ring leader and not the lions and "elephants."

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

... The thing that causes me concern is the presence of John Bolton in the Trump Administration.

Fuzzy,
The "thing that causes concern" is not John Bolton in the trump Administration ... but is trump himself.

Besides, if we didn't have trump there wouldn't be no Bolton, or clowns like Ben Carson, or Russian operatives like Michael Flynn or presidential lawyers who specialize in paying porn stars for their silence.
It's one big circus full of chaos. Blame the ring leader and not the lions and "elephants."

John Bolton is a symptom. Trump is the infection.

[ProudModerate2]

... The thing that causes me concern is the presence of John Bolton in the Trump Administration.

Fuzzy,
The "thing that causes concern" is not John Bolton in the trump Administration ... but is trump himself.

Besides, if we didn't have trump there would be no Bolton, or clowns like Ben Carson, or Russian operatives like Michael Flynn or presidential lawyers who specialize in paying porn stars for their silence.
It's one big circus full of chaos. Blame the ring leader and not the lions and "elephants."

John Bolton is a symptom. Trump is the infection.

In "Fuzzy language," it's like FuzzyBear saying "The thing that causes me concern is the presence of Satan's Minions," and not Lucifer himself (thus ignoring the big-elephant in the room).

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

While I still don't know what really happened at the apparent chemical attack (and I don't think anyone will, until the investigation team with some impartiality can produce their report), I do think it's clear our own government is lying to us about details of the recent airstrikes.

We're being told how awesomely, amazingly good our own hardware is

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Nobody's hardware is that good. Orbital launchers, which don't have anyone trying to knock them down or send them off course, aren't that good. 'Hit all their targets' okay, probably (although I keep seeing reports that we targeted airfields too), but a 100% success rate? I just can't believe that. Especially not in light of reports to the contrary.

Like the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. They're consistently anti-Assad and based in the UK. They said this:

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And then, I've yet to see any solid info proving the sites we blew up were involved in chemical weapons production in any way. That part sounds like more Iraq War nonsense to me.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Donald Trump Ordered Syria Strike Based on a Secret Legal Justification Even Congress Can’t See

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This is how our democracy dies, with secrets and lies, one creeping little step at a time.

(No that Trump is the first to move us down this path, but under him the disintegration of our republic looks to be accelerating rapidly.)

[Blue3]

I thought Trump and Putin were in bed together?

They are.

Russia knew about this attack before it happened.  Weeks ago even.  See a few posts above, it was confirmed by the AP.  This was a staged attack that is not meant to solve anything at all. It’s only intention is to distract from the investigations going on into Trump’s several scandals.

Why would the UK and France go along with it?