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jimrtex
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« on: January 20, 2019, 06:22:11 AM »

Interesting alternative history of the 2000 election. I recall reading somewhere that in the range of 450-600 seats in the House, the result flips back and forth between Bush and Gore at random. Above 600 seats or so, and Gore always wins.

It's also interesting that in this scenario, New Mexico becomes the new Florida, with the election being decided there by just 366 votes.
A curiosity is that the the 2000 election was conducted using 10-years-old census data. Had it been based on data that was only a few months out of data, Bush would have won based on carrying more states regardless of the size of the House.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 06:48:15 AM »

An alternative to using the popular vote, would be to apportion presidential electors on the basis of citizen voting age population.

So the 28th Amendment would provide:

(1) Electors shall be apportioned among the United States and their territories on the basis of the number of citizens 18 years old or older. There shall be at least one elector for every 50,000 such persons, and each State shall be entitled to at least one. The apportionment shall take place one year prior to each presidential election.

(2) Electors shall be chosen by popular election by those eligible to vote for the larger chamber of the legislature. Time, place, manner, of elections shall be established by each State legislature, subject to override by Congress (same rules as for the House of Representatives).

(3) Electors shall meet as a single body to choose the president and vice-president. The president-elect and vice-president elect shall require a majority of the electors elected. The electors may meet at separate physical locations if contemporaneous communication is established.

(4) The 23rd Amendment is repealed. The District of Columbia shall be treated as a territory of the United States for purposes of this article of amendment.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2019, 07:27:32 AM »

An alternative to using the popular vote, would be to apportion presidential electors on the basis of citizen voting age population.

So the 28th Amendment would provide:

(1) Electors shall be apportioned among the United States and their territories on the basis of the number of citizens 18 years old or older. There shall be at least one elector for every 50,000 such persons, and each State shall be entitled to at least one. The apportionment shall take place one year prior to each presidential election.

(2) Electors shall be chosen by popular election by those eligible to vote for the larger chamber of the legislature. Time, place, manner, of elections shall be established by each State legislature, subject to override by Congress (same rules as for the House of Representatives).

(3) Electors shall meet as a single body to choose the president and vice-president. The president-elect and vice-president elect shall require a majority of the electors elected. The electors may meet at separate physical locations if contemporaneous communication is established.

(4) The 23rd Amendment is repealed. The District of Columbia shall be treated as a territory of the United States for purposes of this article of amendment.

If there was one district for each 50K people over 18, what would the 2016 map look like in terms of just state by state quantities of vote?

This would be the apportionment based on the 2010 ACS. Coincidentally, the total number is 4357, or almost precisely 10 times the number of representatives. California's apportionment of 460 electors would suggest that its fair share of representatives would be 46.

The ratio of CVAP/total is 69.5% for the USA, ranging from 61.6% for California to 78.5% for West Virginia.


Alabama                71
Alaska                 10
Arizona                86
Arkansas               43
California            460
Colorado               71
Connecticut            51
Delaware               13
District of Columbia    9
Florida               263
Georgia               133
Hawaii                 19
Idaho                  22
Illinois              176
Indiana                94
Iowa                   45
Kansas                 40
Kentucky               65
Louisiana              67
Maine                  21
Maryland               81
Massachusetts          93
Michigan              146
Minnesota              77
Mississippi            44
Missouri               89
Montana                15
Nebraska               26
Nevada                 35
New Hampshire          20
New Jersey            118
New Mexico             29
New York              263
North Carolina        137
North Dakota           10
Ohio                  172
Oklahoma               54
Oregon                 55
Pennsylvania          192
Rhode Island           15
South Carolina         68
South Dakota           12
Tennessee              94
Texas                 317
Utah                   35
Vermont                10
Virginia              114
Washington             95
West Virginia          29
Wisconsin              84
Wyoming                 8
Puerto Rico            55
American Samoa          1
CNMI                    1
Guam                    2
US Virgin Islands       2
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