Right to Work map in 2025

[PoliticalShelter]

Inspired from this previous thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=204148.50

What do you think the Right to work Map will look in 2025?

[Skill and Chance]

Probably 40+ states, except for a few that have Dem trifectas continuously.  I suspect that whatever policy changes result (job guarantee, UBI, trade restrictions, minimum wage hikes, etc.)  from the current wave of "pro-worker" activism will make the closed shop concept pretty obsolete.   To the extent these changes get some buy-in from the Trumpy segment of the GOP, I would expect RTW to be part of the price of passing them.

[PoliticalShelter]

I can set he map looking a bit like this:

Although a lot depends on how well the Democrats do in the Midwest over the next few cycles.

[PragmaticPopulist]

For the record, the current RTW map looks like this:

Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire have had R trifectas in recent years, and RTW has not passed. I don't think those will get it anytime soon, whether they have R trifectas or not.

By 2025, here's my best guess about what it'll look like:

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Right to work is on the referendum in Missouri this year. Voters will probably block it.

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

[Sestak]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

And better under anyone else? Lmao.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

I don't like either of them, but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The worst thing that they would do is do absolutely nothing to stop it. They are not going to sign a national right to work law.

[BenBurch]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid comment.

[BenBurch]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

[YE]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

[BenBurch]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories. 

[Sestak]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories. 

The GOP objectively does want to kill the safety net. If Bush had gotten his way with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid would have been next.

[BenBurch]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories. 

The GOP objectively does want to kill the safety net. If Bush had gotten his way with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid would have been next.

There definitely do need to be some changes, and the Democrats right now don't want to do anything.  If anything, they want to make it worse. 

[I’m not Stu]

Most Democrats don't support a national right-to-work law. No Democratic President would sign one.

[Person Man]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories. 

The GOP objectively does want to kill the safety net. If Bush had gotten his way with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid would have been next.

There definitely do need to be some changes, and the Democrats right now don't want to do anything.  If anything, they want to make it worse. 

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

[BenBurch]

If the GOP has its way, the American worker will become the American slave in 10 years.

What a stupid 100% true comment.

I actually laughed as I read your comment.  You have to be trolling.  You can't be serious. 

Well, I'll say this. The Koch Brothers want to gut the social safety net, and the GOP does their bidding.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories. 

The GOP objectively does want to kill the safety net. If Bush had gotten his way with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid would have been next.

There definitely do need to be some changes, and the Democrats right now don't want to do anything.  If anything, they want to make it worse. 

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

But will they improve it, or will they continue making it worse?

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

*snip*

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

But will they improve it, or will they continue making it worse?

What do you define as "Improvement" here?

[BenBurch]

*snip*

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

But will they improve it, or will they continue making it worse?

What do you define as "Improvement" here?

Welfare shouldn't go to people who don't work even though they have no problem preventing them from working.  And I don't mean that unemployed people don't deserve welfare.  They do.  I'm just saying that they ought to be looking for a job, and if they aren't, then they don't get welfare.  As you can see from my profile, I'm not some Tea Party Ted Cruz Republican, so don't accuse me of that. 

[Person Man]

*snip*

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

But will they improve it, or will they continue making it worse?

What do you define as "Improvement" here?

I was trying to say is that if Republicans stay a majority in 2018 and consolidate their majority in 2020, they will probably try to re-repeal Obamacare and also tack on a partial cancellation of the Medicaid and Medicare. If they feel that they have a "locked in" electorate, they might even do what Bush tried to do in 2005 and simply have the choice of having a mandatory savings contribution instead of participating in Social Security taxes and benefits.

[courts]

*snip*

They will probably try again if they do well in 18 and 20.

But will they improve it, or will they continue making it worse?

What do you define as "Improvement" here?

Welfare shouldn't go to people who don't work even though they have no problem preventing them from working.  And I don't mean that unemployed people don't deserve welfare.  They do.  I'm just saying that they ought to be looking for a job, and if they aren't, then they don't get welfare.  As you can see from my profile, I'm not some Tea Party Ted Cruz Republican, so don't accuse me of that. 

the problem is more the amount of people that have jobs but still need food stamps or something these days

[Kevinstat]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

I don't like either of them, but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The worst thing that they would do is do absolutely nothing to stop it. They are not going to sign a national right to work law.

Maybe BernieBro's saying there would be a really bad midterm for Dems if either of them were President that resulted in pro-RTW trifectas in more states.  Only 22 states were "Right to Work" states at the start of the Obama administration, while 26 states were at the end and two more states passed and the Governor signed "Right to Work" laws in the following year.  It's currently postponed in Missouri pending a voter-forced referendum (but there a "Yes" vote will be in favor of the bill being challenged, like in California but unlike in Maine) that will be held probably in November of this year.

[I’m not Stu]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

I don't like either of them, but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The worst thing that they would do is do absolutely nothing to stop it. They are not going to sign a national right to work law.

Maybe BernieBro's saying there would be a really bad midterm for Dems if either of them were President that resulted in pro-RTW trifectas in more states.  Only 22 states were "Right to Work" states at the start of the Obama administration, while 26 states were at the end and two more states passed and the Governor signed "Right to Work" laws in the following year.  It's currently postponed in Missouri pending a voter-forced referendum (but there a "Yes" vote will be in favor of the bill being challenged, like in California but unlike in Maine) that will be held probably in November of this year.

But implying that pro-RTW trifectas would be less likely under another Democratic President doesn't make sense. A midterm might go just as poorly.

[Person Man]

Other unlikely scenarios are that Taft Hartley is repealed or SCOTUS finds a constitutional "right to work" based on substantive due process in protected private property the way Lochner was decided.

[Kevinstat]

It’s only gonna get worse under a President Harris or Booker.

I don't like either of them, but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The worst thing that they would do is do absolutely nothing to stop it. They are not going to sign a national right to work law.

Maybe BernieBro's saying there would be a really bad midterm for Dems if either of them were President that resulted in pro-RTW trifectas in more states.  Only 22 states were "Right to Work" states at the start of the Obama administration, while 26 states were at the end and two more states passed and the Governor signed "Right to Work" laws in the following year.  It's currently postponed in Missouri pending a voter-forced referendum (but there a "Yes" vote will be in favor of the bill being challenged, like in California but unlike in Maine) that will be held probably in November of this year.

But implying that pro-RTW trifectas would be less likely under another Democratic President doesn't make sense. A midterm might go just as poorly.

I'm saying pro-RTW trifectas might be more likely under a Democratic President if that President is very unpopular at the time of a biennial election.  I thought that might have been what BernieBro was getting at.  I assumed he meant "worse" as in "more 'Right to Work' states" (I mean, with a username like "BernieBro", I just assumed).  I agree that's not necessarily the case.  2002 was pretty good for Republicans, but it was nothing like 2010 (or 2014).