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« on: April 23, 2018, 10:13:04 pm »

The question is as in the title. I noticed that in 1964, Lyndon Johnson received 61% of the vote in Colorado, 62% in Washington, 64% in Oregon, and a surprising 66% in Alaska. Why did he do so well in those states? What was it about Goldwater that turned them off?
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 10:35:02 pm »

Democrats were still doing reasonably well in rural areas and suburbs weren’t nearly as politically influential as they would be starting in the 1980s
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 05:08:17 pm »

Democrats were still doing reasonably well in rural areas and suburbs weren’t nearly as politically influential as they would be starting in the 1980s
Still surprising Goldwater did so poorly in Colorado not cracking 40% as he did in surrounding states. Colorado leaned heavily GOP back then.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 05:11:15 pm »

Here’s the PVI map from 1964




Pretty surprised CO was more dem than DE and IL
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 08:49:15 pm »

Democrats were still doing reasonably well in rural areas and suburbs weren’t nearly as politically influential as they would be starting in the 1980s
Still surprising Goldwater did so poorly in Colorado not cracking 40% as he did in surrounding states. Colorado leaned heavily GOP back then.

I saw a Time article from that year, which stated that Colorado was turning to Johnson because of Goldwater's views on (among other things), farm and nuclear policy. But why did it do so, to a greater extent, than any of the neighboring states?

As for the suburbs, I thought that Johnson won most of them that year, except for the ones outside of Chicago and those in Southern California.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2018, 09:47:44 am »

Here’s the PVI map from 1964




Pretty surprised CO was more dem than DE and IL

And CA as well. Johnson only got 59% in CA since wealthy businessmen in Orange County largely supported Goldwater, just keeping Johnson under 60% statewide.

My theory is that the Johnson/Humphrey ticket heavily appealed to farmers while Goldwater's extreme libertarian views on economic/agriculture policy were supposed to hurt farmers.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2018, 10:01:42 am »

Johnson campaigned as a Westerner...no Democrat since actually bothered to do so sans the hapless McGovern.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2018, 12:44:34 pm »

Oil only started being discovered in Alaska in 1968 and that year Nixon won Alaska by just 1% and has been strongly republican ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Native_Claims_Settlement_Act#Effect_of_land_conveyances

Nixon signing this native claims law allowed development on drilling and the transport of Oil in the state ever since. And afterwards there was migration from the rest of the country to oil industries and industries that were helped by the economic demand created from the oil industry which made the same people who moved and their descendants vote GOP because of opposition to the Democratic platforms recently that had a focus on Climate change which included restrictions on green house gas emissions.


As for why he didnt win California as much, SoCal excluding LA. which used to be the bastion of the republican party didnt swung towards him as much as other parts of the state did.


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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2018, 02:32:18 pm »

Oil only started being discovered in Alaska in 1968 and that year Nixon won Alaska by just 1% and has been strongly republican ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Native_Claims_Settlement_Act#Effect_of_land_conveyances

Nixon signing this native claims law allowed development on drilling and the transport of Oil in the state ever since. And afterwards there was migration from the rest of the country to oil industries and industries that were helped by the economic demand created from the oil industry which made the same people who moved and their descendants vote GOP because of opposition to the Democratic platforms recently that had a focus on Climate change which included restrictions on green house gas emissions.


As for why he didnt win California as much, SoCal excluding LA. which used to be the bastion of the republican party didnt swung towards him as much as other parts of the state did.



Wait, did that one borough in Alaska actually swing to LBJ as much as Long County, Georgia did?
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2018, 05:18:51 pm »

Here’s the PVI map from 1964




Pretty surprised CO was more dem than DE and IL

And CA as well. Johnson only got 59% in CA since wealthy businessmen in Orange County largely supported Goldwater, just keeping Johnson under 60% statewide.

My theory is that the Johnson/Humphrey ticket heavily appealed to farmers while Goldwater's extreme libertarian views on economic/agriculture policy were supposed to hurt farmers.

I have seen sources stating that farm policy was a decisive factor in many states, such as North Carolina, Wisconsin, and North Dakota, among others. But how does that explain the Pacific Northwest?
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2018, 06:42:46 pm »

Bumping this up as I am still curious about the questions that I asked.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2018, 07:08:11 pm »

Great map. Does anyone know anything about the non-Southern counties that swung towards Goldwater?
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2018, 09:45:42 pm »

Great map. Does anyone know anything about the non-Southern counties that swung towards Goldwater?

Here's their population as of 1960:

Emmons, ND – 8,462

(Osage, MO – 10,867)

Custer, ID – 2,996

Camas, ID – 917

Kennedy and Goldwater both won all four counties.
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