See? Us Mexicans care for you!

[opebo]

Given how awful a country Mexico is, we had a very legitimate claim even before they unjustly invaded Texas.

This is getting better and better. You can might say that the US were protecting its newly aquired lands (Texas) but when they claimed California, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Colerado and Arizona it wasn't really a war of protection.

They invaded us, so we took their land. Pretty simple.

If we had initiated the war, things might be different, although I think manifest destiny is a perfectly legitimate principle anyway.

I thought you believed in 'property rights'?  I think the poor should take the 'property' of the rich.. how is that any different?

[A18]

In a state of nature, if someone tried to take your property, it would be just to take theirs. Alas, we have governments, so it is different.

[Speed of Sound]

Legitimately, you got your ass handed to you. I'd advise you to stop crying about it.

[Emsworth]

Also. LEGITIMATELY that territory is Mexican.

Why is it legitimately Mexican? Why is it not, say, legitimately Aztec?

[Cashcow]

I believe we actually purchased the land after we won the Mexican-American War. That's just how nice we are.

[opebo]

In a state of nature, if someone tried to take your property, it would be just to take theirs. Alas, we have governments, so it is different.

No, it isn't.  The state of nature still applies, it is just harder to get away with it.

[King]

Please, Please, take Texas and Louisiana away from us!

I thought you lived in Thailand.

[opebo]

Please, Please, take Texas and Louisiana away from us!

I thought you lived in Thailand.

Alas, only part of the year.. happily I do return very soon.

[MaC]

teh US will steal Thailand, and install Christianity on it's people there

[Jake]

Their amazing President is moving in that direction thankfully.

[King]

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

Whether they had a legitimate claim or not, I am glad my current place of residence isn't still in Mexico now.

[Jens]

I believe we actually purchased the land after we won the Mexican-American War. That's just how nice we are.

Only the southern parts of New Mexico and Arizona (1853). The majority was aquired in the peace treaty after the war (1846-1848)

[KillerPollo]

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

Whether they had a legitimate claim or not, I am glad my current place of residence isn't still in Mexico now.

"Now why don't you look down to where your feet is planted? That US soil that makes you take sh1t for granted!
If not for Santa Anna Just to let you know, that where your feet are planted would be Mexico! CORRECTO"

-Frijolero By Molotov-

[MasterJedi]

Well if I would have had my way I would have forced the US government back then to take all of Mexico. (Literally they were too racisit because the rest of Mexico wasn't like the rest of the US so we didn't take it)

[KillerPollo]

Well if I would have had my way I would have forced the US government back then to take all of Mexico. (Literally they were too racisit because the rest of Mexico wasn't like the rest of the US so we didn't take it)

That, and the intense prejudice for the Amerindians led fear to the expansion of slavery.

[TX_1824]

The Spaniards took it from the Native Americans. The Mexicans took it from the Spaniards, the Texans from the Mexicans and the Americans from the Texans (annexation) and Mexicans (war). What is your point?

[WMS]

I believe we actually purchased the land after we won the Mexican-American War. That's just how nice we are.

Only the southern parts of New Mexico and Arizona (1853). The majority was aquired in the peace treaty after the war (1846-1848)

Actually, we purchased the land in the peace treaty as well. We just got far better terms then.

[Cashcow]

I believe we actually purchased the land after we won the Mexican-American War. That's just how nice we are.

Only the southern parts of New Mexico and Arizona (1853). The majority was aquired in the peace treaty after the war (1846-1848)

Actually, we purchased the land in the peace treaty as well. We just got far better terms then.

Yeah, I'm not talking about the Gadsden Purchase.

[Vincent]

IIRC, we offered them $30,000,000 for the land before the war and gave them $15,000,000 after it.

[Jake]

Glad to see we've continued to rip them off.

[Jens]

I believe we actually purchased the land after we won the Mexican-American War. That's just how nice we are.

Only the southern parts of New Mexico and Arizona (1853). The majority was aquired in the peace treaty after the war (1846-1848)

Actually, we purchased the land in the peace treaty as well. We just got far better terms then.

Yeah, I'm not talking about the Gadsden Purchase.

IIRC, we offered them $30,000,000 for the land before the war and gave them $15,000,000 after it.

When you force a country to give up half its territory and then give 15 million so they will stop crying, I wouldn't really call it a purchase

[jimrtex]

We didn't "steal" Mexican land. If another nation trys to steal your territory, it only makes sense to teach them a little lesson.
Now, the Spanish-American War on the other hand...

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

The government of Texas voted to accede to the United States.

[Jens]

We didn't "steal" Mexican land. If another nation trys to steal your territory, it only makes sense to teach them a little lesson.
Now, the Spanish-American War on the other hand...

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

The government of Texas voted to accede to the United States.

True, but in the eyes of everybody els they were a rebel province, much like Somaliland is looked upon today. Do you know how many states that recognised the independent republic of Texas?

[Jens]

We didn't "steal" Mexican land. If another nation trys to steal your territory, it only makes sense to teach them a little lesson.
Now, the Spanish-American War on the other hand...

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

The government of Texas voted to accede to the United States.

True, but in the eyes of everybody els they were a rebel province, much like Somaliland is looked upon today. Do you know how many states that recognised the independent republic of Texas?

Looked it up myself. According to Wikipedia, France, USA, UK, Netherlands and Yucatán recongnised Texas

[minionofmidas]

We didn't "steal" Mexican land. If another nation trys to steal your territory, it only makes sense to teach them a little lesson.
Now, the Spanish-American War on the other hand...

Come on, what kind of legitimate claim did the US have on Mexico north of the Rio Grande?

The government of Texas voted to accede to the United States.

True, but in the eyes of everybody els they were a rebel province, much like Somaliland is looked upon today. Do you know how many states that recognised the independent republic of Texas?

Looked it up myself. According to Wikipedia, France, USA, UK, Netherlands and Yucatán recongnised Texas

Ah, but IIRC most of them did not recognize Texas' claim to extend all the way to the Rio Grande. Texas ended at the Nueces (or the Brazos? Can't tell those names apart...Not the Pecos.) River. In many ways it still does.