Could Sanders have ran for the Green Party nomination instead of dropping out
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« on: May 06, 2018, 02:21:40 PM »

In July of 2016


Or would sore loser laws stop him from getting Green Party nomination in August
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2018, 02:39:31 PM »

There isn't a nationwide sore loser law, that's why Rand Paul and Marco Rubio were allowed to run for reelection to the Senate after their campaigns ended. It depends on the state.

So yes, Sanders would've been able to run as the Green nominee (I think it may even have been offered to him by Jill Stein but he turned it down).
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2018, 05:02:55 PM »

Mike Gravel did run for the 2008 Libertarian nomination after drooping out in Democratic primaries.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM »

Sanders would have ruined his future with the Democratic Party. Especially if he were to run in 2020. He likely would have become a spoiler and cost Clinton even more votes and states. I'm not the biggest fan of Sanders as a candidate, but thankfully he knew better than to do this.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2018, 09:18:10 PM »

Sanders would have ruined his future with the Democratic Party. Especially if he were to run in 2020. He likely would have become a spoiler and cost Clinton even more votes and states. I'm not the biggest fan of Sanders as a candidate, but thankfully he knew better than to do this.

Just asking hypothetically as if he wanted to could he run as a Green Party Canadiate after losing dem nomination and if he got it would sore loser laws stop him from being on Ballot in many states
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2018, 01:20:44 PM »

Sanders would have ruined his future with the Democratic Party. Especially if he were to run in 2020. He likely would have become a spoiler and cost Clinton even more votes and states. I'm not the biggest fan of Sanders as a candidate, but thankfully he knew better than to do this.

Won't be surprised if he does it in 2020, though, since he will have no future with Democrats if he loses.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2018, 02:22:43 PM »

Jill Stein openly offered to cede the Green Party nomination to Sanders just prior to the Democratic convention. This was a publicity stunt. Stein had no power to compel her delegates to support another candidate, even if that candidate signed on to every letter of the Green Party platform.

Given Sanders' tenuous relationship with the Democratic Party, it's not clear that the Green Party's rules would have ruled out nominating him. That said, if Stein had declared that she was unwilling to accept the nomination, her delegates' support would have been dictated by the various state parties in subsequent rounds of voting. Greens tend to be incredibly sensitive about anything that seems like an effort to "co-opt" their party, so it's unlikely that these organizers would have voted to become Bernie Sanders' personality vehicle.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2018, 06:34:10 PM »

Sanders would have ruined his future with the Democratic Party. Especially if he were to run in 2020. He likely would have become a spoiler and cost Clinton even more votes and states. I'm not the biggest fan of Sanders as a candidate, but thankfully he knew better than to do this.

Just asking hypothetically as if he wanted to could he run as a Green Party Canadiate after losing dem nomination and if he got it would sore loser laws stop him from being on Ballot in many states

The Green Party probably would have been overjoyed to have him. They'd kick Stein to the curb since they could likely get 5% or more of the vote with Sanders as their nominee. He would grant them the legitimacy they crave so much.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2018, 10:52:06 AM »

Sanders would have ruined his future with the Democratic Party. Especially if he were to run in 2020. He likely would have become a spoiler and cost Clinton even more votes and states. I'm not the biggest fan of Sanders as a candidate, but thankfully he knew better than to do this.

Just asking hypothetically as if he wanted to could he run as a Green Party Canadiate after losing dem nomination and if he got it would sore loser laws stop him from being on Ballot in many states

The Green Party probably would have been overjoyed to have him. They'd kick Stein to the curb since they could likely get 5% or more of the vote with Sanders as their nominee. He would grant them the legitimacy they crave so much.

Didn't Stein invite him to run as the Green Party nominee?  I think her delegates would definitely have switched behind Sanders.

I don't think he would have won the presidency (or even come close) but could he be sitting as the first Green Party Senator?  That would certainly change the dynamics of the 2018 midterms!
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 12:05:44 PM »

Possibly, but he'd probably give Trump a landslide victory due to a split D vote.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 12:14:40 PM »

Possibly, but he'd probably give Trump a landslide victory due to a split D vote.
And if that happened, he would have left a legacy more similar to that of Ralph Nader. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2018, 02:30:35 PM »

Possibly, but he'd probably give Trump a landslide victory due to a split D vote.
And if that happened, he would have left a legacy more similar to that of Ralph Nader. Tongue

Including two subsequent independent campaigns getting three and a half votes each? Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2018, 03:49:59 PM »

Jill Stein openly offered to cede the Green Party nomination to Sanders just prior to the Democratic convention. This was a publicity stunt. Stein had no power to compel her delegates to support another candidate, even if that candidate signed on to every letter of the Green Party platform.

Given Sanders' tenuous relationship with the Democratic Party, it's not clear that the Green Party's rules would have ruled out nominating him. That said, if Stein had declared that she was unwilling to accept the nomination, her delegates' support would have been dictated by the various state parties in subsequent rounds of voting. Greens tend to be incredibly sensitive about anything that seems like an effort to "co-opt" their party, so it's unlikely that these organizers would have voted to become Bernie Sanders' personality vehicle.

Didn't bother them with Nader.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2018, 10:03:45 PM »

Bernie had promised he'd support and campaign for the nominee. Of course it was a mistake to give up that much leverage to the people who rigged things. He should have threatened to go 3rd party if they didn't stop rigging things. I mean he needed a federal lawsuit with threat of judicial discovery just to access his own data.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2018, 02:13:56 AM »

I'm sure many of his supporters would've been thrilled, but Sanders actually didn't want Trump to get elected. He's a better man than some of his deranged followers were.

Bernie may have run third party in this case


Say the contested convention which was looking likely before the North Eastern primaries happen and in that convention the delegates deny trump the nomination and give it to Cruz , Kasich or Rubio .

This causes Trump to run third party in anger


And now since the Right is divided Bernie decides to run third party as well
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