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Mr. Reactionary
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« on: May 08, 2018, 06:54:14 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2018, 05:56:26 AM »

(Also, on a budget-related note, repealing the law would increase the deficit because a portion of the revenue funds another initiative.  Most of the revenue gained from the law is split and returned to the taxpayers evenly.)

If its repealed we just dont fund that initiative right? IIRC the tax was used to fund a new program, not to pay down the deficit.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2018, 12:19:56 PM »

While I doubt I win this vote, I still do not believe we should be taxing the thing every person exhales, especially when the tax does not help us pay down the deficit or fund pre-existing programs so I find the amendment hostile.

Because the sponsor finds the amendment hostile, we shall now proceed to a vote on the amendment, to last 30 hrs or 12 hrs after everyone has voted, whichever occurs soonest.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2018, 12:20:33 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 04:18:23 PM »

As far as the Carbon Tax, I would be fine with amending it so that the 30% to pay for the Renewable Energy Rebate and Subsidy Act stays, and allow the remaining 70% to be used for things like paying down the deficit and funding other initiatives, as it's a better use of that money than what it is currently going towards.

I would not support killing the Carbon Tax.

FASCIST!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 05:10:21 PM »

While we await the votes on the proposed amendment, I will provide my summary. Several of these ideas were originally passed in the South.

Section 2 creates what is known as an audit privilege for enforcing environmental regulations. Basically, potential polluters design a policy of regularly inspecting and auditing their equipment and processes for environmental compliance. In the event that a violation is found, as long as it wasn’t purposeful, is reported, and is fixed, they will not be prosecuted for environmental violations. IRL state policies to this effect have helped reduce total violations, since there is an incentive for potential polluters to monitor and report rather than conceal violations.

Section 3 allows for reusing certain environmental impact studies rather than always requiring new long costly studies before development begins. This saves costs without really sacrificing data, as site specific factors that were not considered in prior studies must still be considered to comply with NEPA.

4-1 protects small farmers from being unfairly prosecuted because of the weather.

4-2 protects hunters and fishers from being unfairly prosecuted for hunting or fishing. Obama attempted a backdoor ban on hunting and fishing on federal land right using the tactic we are prohibiting in this bill.

4-3 protects poor, rural people who have to burn wood for heat from unnecessary efficiency standards that just push up costs.

4-4 eliminates federal regulations which require cars to be less crash resistant/more dangerous.

4-5 actually authorizes the creation of a new regulation (See its not all cuts) mandating acoustic switches on offshore oil drilling platforms. The added cost is outweighed by the added safety in this case.

4-6 keeps the EPA focused on enforcing the Clean Air Act on the statutory 2-fold areas of criteria pollutants and toxic hazardous air pollutants. The statutorily mandated criteria air pollutants are carbon monoxide, lead, ground-level ozone, nitrogen dioxide, particulate matter, and sulfur dioxide. There are a fair amount of hazardous air pollutants regulated; there are 187 and they are listed here: https://www.epa.gov/haps/initial-list-hazardous-air-pollutants-modifications

4-7 returns the maximum level of ozone to a higher level than it was in 2012 but not quite as high as it currently is, as the costs do outweigh the minimal direct benefits here.

5-1 brings back one of the original funding mechanisms of the superfund, which expired in 1995. Basically it was a tax on certain environmentally detrimental chemicals which were the reason for the contamination of most of the superfund sites the federal government has to pay to clean up. This will cause the cost of goods produced with the chemicals to go up which sucks, but I think this is a good way to ensure the superfund does not draw from general funds. This tax is set to expire at the end of 2022. Im not sure how to guesstimate potential revenue for this.

5-2 increases the tax on imported oil that is specially set aside for oil spill cleanup. It also eliminates a terrible loophole that exempts tar sands oil imports from the tax, even though there is more  of a risk of that type of oil spill.

5-3 increases the tax on gas that is specially set aside for cleaning up damage from leaking underground gas storage tanks.

5-4 repeals the tax on the stuff plants breathe and we exhale.

5-5 increases the user fees on testing and marketing new chemicals.

5-6 fines people for interfering with pipeline inspections.

5-7 permanently extends this thing that gets renewed every 5 years that lets state and local governments pay extra for faster permit processing on clean water act permits.

5-8 eliminates a redundant grant program. $165 Million saved according to this: http://stormwater.wef.org/2017/05/fy2018-presidents-proposed-budget-seeks-to-eliminate-epa-runoff-pollution-grants-memo-says/

6-1 and 6-2 preempt local attacks on plastic shopping bags and fracking respectively.

7-1 - 7-4 are more environmental regulations to help pipeline safety. Specifically:

1. Authority to regulate gaseous carbon dioxide pipelines and liquid chlorine pipelines
2. Minimum safety requirements for tar sands oil pipelines
3. Helps the federal regulators get geospatial data of the pipelines they regulate
4. Requires automatic or remote-controlled excess flow shut-off valve on pipelines to increase safety

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 07:22:24 PM »

Amendment passes 4-1-0.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2018, 09:21:36 PM »

Amendment is extremely hostile. The goal of the clean air act has always been to protect the immediate health of persons. That means from breathing in toxic stuff that will hurt you. Added water vapor in the air and co2 do not hurt you. Its only when you take a bunch of leaps that you get to "well this protects health because the statistical chances of hurricanes may slightly decrease". its the same kind of sham reasoning the Supreme Court struck down in US v Lopez. From that opinion:

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I am trying to steer us away from a constitutional issue and fighting for the original intent of the law: stuff in the air the either hurts us when we breathe it in or that causes acid rain. Regulating the byproducts of breathing though is a terrifying concept, but that is effectively what continued regulation will ultimately lead to. How long until each individual human has to participate in a cap and trade program for the privilege of living?

Voting on the amendment is now open.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2018, 09:49:52 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2018, 10:07:37 PM »

Amendment passes. 4-1-1.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 08:33:26 PM »

So are we good now?
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 08:46:16 PM »

Super hostile. Voting on the amendment is now open.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2018, 09:06:38 PM »

V-1 is necessary to ensure constitutional compliance with the dormant commerce clause.

The alternative represents a Regional barrier to goods in interstate commerce.

in Philadelphia v. New Jersey the Supreme Court held: "A state may not prohibit or place barriers to articles of commerce entering or exiting its boundaries without express Congressional authorization or a compelling state interest." Just as trash in this case was an article in interstate commerce, plastic grocery bags are articles in interstate commerce.

II-1 is a widely utilized method of promoting greater environmental compliance. https://www.epa.gov/compliance/state-audit-privilege-and-immunity-laws-self-disclosure-laws-and-policies

III-2 literally just protects outdoorsy people for being outdoors. How in the hell is hunting with lead bullets or fishing with a sinker that happens to be lead "pollution" in any meaningful sense of the word?
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2018, 06:53:12 PM »

Amendment passes 3-1-0; 2 NV.

I propose the following amendment, subject to 24 hours for yall to object:

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2018, 05:42:39 PM »

I hereby request unanimous consent to proceed to a final vote. 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2018, 04:08:59 PM »

Read the bill. As amended this bill creates 5 new environmental regulations on big oil and eliminates 3 regulations: 1 affecting small farmers, 1 mandating unsafe cars, and the water vapor one is just for the future. There are no current regulations for water vapor, I just dont want EPA to assume they can just regulate it.

This bill also generates lots of money to clean up toxic waste sites and closes an egregious tax loophole for tar sands oil, and it also makes environmental permitting more efficient without sacrificing any scientific data.

I would hardly consider that rolling back environmental protections. This bill is a pro environmental bill that makes Atlasia more green.

That being said, voting is now open for 72 hours or until all 6 Senators vote, whichever is soonest.


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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2018, 04:50:55 PM »

aye
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2018, 05:11:26 PM »

Bill passes. 4-1-1.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2018, 08:13:25 PM »

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