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« on: May 19, 2018, 07:38:43 AM »

Which candidates will appear to have a strong presence in the field and ultimately drop out due to declining support before Iowa?
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 09:49:14 AM »

Kamala Harris comes to mind
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2018, 10:19:27 AM »

- Merkley, if there any other progressive populists running then he has absolutely no base.

- Holder, but I could see him getting Gilmored.

- Garcetti, he has no natural base.

Maybe not "big presence in the field" type guys though.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2018, 10:39:22 AM »

John Delaney will be the Martin O'Malley of 2020. Kirsten Gillibrand seems like the most likely candidate here.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2018, 01:21:46 PM »


I doubt Harris campaigns much in IA/NH she will bet big on SC/NV and other diverse states. I think a lot of Dems will actually put off dropping out before Iowa because they'd think waiting for more diverse states would be better for them.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2018, 01:24:35 PM »

Well Scott Walker whole selling point in the primary was that he could act as a bridge between the establishment wing and the grassroots. So the democratic equivalent would be someone like Gillibrand or Warren.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2018, 07:40:38 PM »

Gillibrand was the first I thought of.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2018, 08:07:55 PM »

Gillibrand or Harris
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2018, 09:36:38 PM »

I think Biden fits the criteria most closely, quite honestly.

His base is basically the Obama base, which will be divided among several other candidates, and he's gaffe prone. I think he either wins a bunch of early primaries/caucuses or he drops out well before Iowa.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2018, 12:25:09 PM »

Joe Biden.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2018, 12:55:55 PM »

I think there's a non-zero chance it's Warren if Sanders, Gillibrand, and Harris all run. She's in a weird space where she might be a favorite of many, but her base is thoroughly cannibalized.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2018, 01:27:59 PM »

Obama seems pretty sure that this will happen to Biden if he runs.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2018, 02:05:17 PM »

booker
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 07:46:33 PM »

I honestly could see it being Booker. He is not the political talent President Obama is. If I could see anyone making a dumb gaffe early and dropping out, it's probably him.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2018, 11:41:22 PM »

Booker or Gillibrand, lean more toward the later as she's taken more seriously than Booker is.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 12:44:19 AM »

Probably Booker, except expectations are already shifting away from him and have been for like a year.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 04:34:30 AM »

Walkers biggest floor was that once he started talking about policies, he fell apart. Building the wall in Canada, the PATCO strike ending the Cold War etc.

The one advantage that the Senators (Harris/Booker/Gillibrand) have is that they've been talking about a lot of issues, and have been on the national stage. Beyond his 2012 recall, Walker never faced the scrutiny of a national campaign.

The person who comes closest to mind is Biden (But I think he's likely to be the Jeb! of 2020)
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 05:32:41 AM »

Cuomo, if he is stupid enough to run.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2018, 10:38:06 AM »

Biden seems more like a Lieberman-esque flop. I have to go with Gillibrand but nobody will exactly fall into the mold of a Walker sized flop.
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2018, 11:05:23 AM »

Biden seems more like a Lieberman-esque flop. I have to go with Gillibrand but nobody will exactly fall into the mold of a Walker sized flop.
Biden has been polling well in every poll, I don't Lieberman was even taken seriously in 2004.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2018, 01:05:19 PM »

Biden seems more like a Lieberman-esque flop. I have to go with Gillibrand but nobody will exactly fall into the mold of a Walker sized flop.
Biden has been polling well in every poll, I don't Lieberman was even taken seriously in 2004.


Lieberman was leading the early primary polls in the first few months of 2003:

http://news.gallup.com/poll/8302/lieberman-leads-field-nine.aspx



But that was because he had the highest name recognition.  And even at that time, there was plenty of skepticism that his lead would endure (since he was regarded as too much of a centrist squish to actually win the nomination), and many considered Kerry the "real" frontrunner (who was then eventually overtaken by Dean, only to be re-overtaken by Kerry in Jan. 2004).
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2018, 01:44:00 PM »

christ now i'm nostalgic for 2003
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