Did Hillary win any rural majority White counties outside of Vermont?

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I just want to know. She only got 34% of the rural vote. Rural White voters showed out in big numbers for Trump.

[Mr. Smith]

Yeah, a good chunk of ski country counties in the west.

[jaichind]

I also think she won some Western counties that are dominated by Indian Reservations.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

I also think she won some Western counties that are dominated by Indian Reservations.

Natives are a different group.

Teton County Wyoming is over 90% white and went for Clinton.

[Yellowhammer]

Is Mono County, CA rural? It's 81% white and she won it easily.

-Cook & Lake counties, Minnesota.

[NOVA Green]

Sure... although the list would vary depending upon what standards we use to define "rural"....

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/rural-classifications/what-is-rural.aspx



So for example, we see in Oregon Clinton won Clatsop, Lincoln, and Hood River Counties all of which fall into the "Micropolitan" classification....

In Washington, Clinton won Jefferson County, which falls into the "Non-Metro" and "Non Micro" category, as well as Whitman (Micropolitan)....

In California, Humboldt, Mendocino (Micropolitan), and some various other counties....

I could go further, and it wouldn't be that hard for someone to pull up a list fairly quickly running the USDA/ US Census definitions against the '16 GE results, and then cross-checking against Census Data for the "White" population, which is after all self-defined based upon current Census selections, etc....

Personally this is why I have a personal preference for precinct data:

It is much easier to separate out incorporated Cities from the rest of the County, which is why for example I can state that Trump beat Clinton (62-29 R) in rural Coos County Oregon, which accounted for 48% of the Vote Share in '16 versus Dukakis winning Rural parts of the County (57-40 D) in '88.

Still, precinct work and coding is pretty labor intensive, and additionally there are many states that have different forms of Governmental Jurisdictions such as Towns/Townships, you also start getting into States where it is extremely easy to develop in rural areas vs other states such as Oregon with extremely comprehensive and intensive land-use planning laws designed to protect rural farmlands and forest land, as well as managed "urban sprawl" through Urban Growth boundaries that makes it much more difficult to develop outside of these boundaries.....

If anyone is interested in the project my thought would be to start with the three different broad US Census definitions by County, subtotal the results by State for each to try to gain an "approximation" of the rural vote.

Other thing to think about is that exit polls are self-defined (34% of rural voters supported Clinton for example), so respondents definition of "rural" might be a bit different than numbers using a standard methodology and coding structure....

The nice thing about counties as your lowest unit of measurement is that it's much easier to pull numbers for Ethnic and Social Demographics for "rural areas", than it is to try to dissect the intricacies of US Census Tracts vs Precinct Maps vs Population by Social-Demographic groupings....

[NOVA Green]

Is Mono County, CA rural? It's 81% white and she won it easily.

Sorry you posted this while I was working on my reply to the OPs question....

It would appear to meet the USDA / US Census definition of a NON-METRO, NON-MICRO, NON-CORE County....

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Yeah, a good chunk of ski country counties in the west.

I also think she won some Western counties that are dominated by Indian Reservations.

Natives are a different group.

Teton County Wyoming is over 90% white and went for Clinton.

Is Mono County, CA rural? It's 81% white and she won it easily.

-Cook & Lake counties, Minnesota.

Sure... although the list would vary depending upon what standards we use to define "rural"....

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/rural-classifications/what-is-rural.aspx



So for example, we see in Oregon Clinton won Clatsop, Lincoln, and Hood River Counties all of which fall into the "Micropolitan" classification....

In Washington, Clinton won Jefferson County, which falls into the "Non-Metro" and "Non Micro" category, as well as Whitman (Micropolitan)....

In California, Humboldt, Mendocino (Micropolitan), and some various other counties....

I could go further, and it wouldn't be that hard for someone to pull up a list fairly quickly running the USDA/ US Census definitions against the '16 GE results, and then cross-checking against Census Data for the "White" population, which is after all self-defined based upon current Census selections, etc....

Personally this is why I have a personal preference for precinct data:

It is much easier to separate out incorporated Cities from the rest of the County, which is why for example I can state that Trump beat Clinton (62-29 R) in rural Coos County Oregon, which accounted for 48% of the Vote Share in '16 versus Dukakis winning Rural parts of the County (57-40 D) in '88.

Still, precinct work and coding is pretty labor intensive, and additionally there are many states that have different forms of Governmental Jurisdictions such as Towns/Townships, you also start getting into States where it is extremely easy to develop in rural areas vs other states such as Oregon with extremely comprehensive and intensive land-use planning laws designed to protect rural farmlands and forest land, as well as managed "urban sprawl" through Urban Growth boundaries that makes it much more difficult to develop outside of these boundaries.....

If anyone is interested in the project my thought would be to start with the three different broad US Census definitions by County, subtotal the results by State for each to try to gain an "approximation" of the rural vote.

Other thing to think about is that exit polls are self-defined (34% of rural voters supported Clinton for example), so respondents definition of "rural" might be a bit different than numbers using a standard methodology and coding structure....

The nice thing about counties as your lowest unit of measurement is that it's much easier to pull numbers for Ethnic and Social Demographics for "rural areas", than it is to try to dissect the intricacies of US Census Tracts vs Precinct Maps vs Population by Social-Demographic groupings....

Is Mono County, CA rural? It's 81% white and she won it easily.

Sorry you posted this while I was working on my reply to the OPs question....

It would appear to meet the USDA / US Census definition of a NON-METRO, NON-MICRO, NON-CORE County....

Thanks to all of you.

[AtorBoltox]

Deer Lodge County, Montana, although her margin was the lowest for a Democrat in decades

[Seattle]

San Juan County, WA. 92.6% white, Clinton won with 64.4% to Trump's 24.1%

[SaneDemocrat]

Dukes County, Massachusetts,Tompkins County, New York,Pitkin County, Colorado,Blaine County, Idaho,

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Is Mono County, CA rural? It's 81% white and she won it easily.

Yep. It has Mammoth Lakes (population ~8000) and the next largest CDP after that is ~600. I am sure Mammoth was a huge reason why Clinton won.

Alpine County, CA is even more rural and was won by Hillary.

Hillary also won Northampton (57% white, population ~14000) and Prince Edward (62% white, population ~23000) counties VA, the latter of which probably owing to it having a college town.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Absolutely. For more, I suggest you read Richard Florida's article on America's three types rural areas. It gives a good overview of the nuances of rural America's demography and lifestyles, and I expect Clinton won or outperformed average Dems in many of the rural counties it categorized as upscale.

[Dr. MB]

Hood River, OR; Lincoln, OR; Clatsop, OR

Summit, UT

Blaine, ID

San Juan, WA

Alpine, CA

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

Coastal Maine.

[lfromnj]

Lake county MN is the whitest county Hillary won.

When this county still voted GOP sometimes it also voted socialist.

[Thunder98 🇮🇱 🤝 🇵🇸]

Portage County, WI

[Calthrina950]

Lake county MN is the whitest county Hillary won.

When this county still voted GOP sometimes it also voted socialist.

I believe that the Socialist vote garnered by Norman Thomas is what enabled Herbert Hoover to narrowly carry the county against Franklin Roosevelt in 1932. Ironically, 1932 was the first time ever that Minnesota as a whole voted Democratic, and Lake County was the only county that Hoover won in the state that year. Harding also carried Lake County with a plurality in 1920 thanks to Debs, while receiving 71% of the vote in Minnesota as a whole.

[538Electoral]

Yes.