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« on: May 07, 2018, 12:14:57 AM »

Creationism is intended to make everyone feel weak and scare us into serving the universal Saddam Hussein, make us fear his eternal torture chambers for those who won't bow.

Evolution is intended to make us feel worthless and devoid of personal ambition, like we are just cogs in the evolutionary machine.

If you believe in these ideas, it is going to keep you from believing in yourself and your ability to become a true Übermensch. It will reduce your life to simple subservience to others.

Yes or no?
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 01:59:25 AM »

Evolution is a scientific fact, it isn't "intended" to make us feel anything.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2018, 07:37:33 AM »

Creationism is intended to make everyone feel weak and scare us into serving the universal Saddam Hussein, make us fear his eternal torture chambers for those who won't bow.

Evolution is intended to make us feel worthless and devoid of personal ambition, like we are just cogs in the evolutionary machine.

If you believe in these ideas, it is going to keep you from believing in yourself and your ability to become a true Übermensch. It will reduce your life to simple subservience to others.

Yes or no?

Although I don't that is the intention of evolution, if it makes you feel that you are powerless that is not a good thing. We have more power than we think, and if that is what your concept of a "true Übermensch" is, that is a good thing. Of course, if that term is used in a racist way that is not a good thing. My point is that empowering people, all people, is a good thing, but difficult. It is summed up in the cliché, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." You can encourage a person to be independent, but not force "him" to think.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 11:22:36 AM »

Creationism is intended to make everyone feel weak and scare us into serving the universal Saddam Hussein, make us fear his eternal torture chambers for those who won't bow.

Evolution is intended to make us feel worthless and devoid of personal ambition, like we are just cogs in the evolutionary machine.

If you believe in these ideas, it is going to keep you from believing in yourself and your ability to become a true Übermensch. It will reduce your life to simple subservience to others.

Yes or no?

Although I don't that is the intention of evolution, if it makes you feel that you are powerless that is not a good thing. We have more power than we think, and if that is what your concept of a "true Übermensch" is, that is a good thing. Of course, if that term is used in a racist way that is not a good thing. My point is that empowering people, all people, is a good thing, but difficult. It is summed up in the cliché, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." You can encourage a person to be independent, but not force "him" to think.

I meant it in a non-racist way. I think everyone on the planet has the ability to become an Übermensch if they actually work at it, and I think basing anything in your life on your race, or giving value to others based on their race alone, is extremely stupid.

I see what you are saying however. I think it's a shame that not everyone aspires to become powerful and shape reality around them. Too many people give up their ambition.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2018, 11:54:25 AM »

I didn't think that you meant it in a racist way, but the word might trigger some folks.
I agree with what you say.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2018, 12:02:28 PM »

I didn't think that you meant it in a racist way, but the word might trigger some folks.
I agree with what you say.

It's bothersome that the Nazis stole and twisted so many of Nietzsche's ideas lol
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2018, 12:38:14 PM »

Not in and of themselves, but they can be.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2018, 05:24:43 PM »
« Edited: May 14, 2018, 05:28:48 PM by Meclazine »

Evolution is intended to make us feel worthless and devoid of personal ambition, like we are just cogs in the evolutionary machine.

Simply false.

Evolution is totally independent of your psychological state.

It was never designed or intended for anything to do with human beings. It is simply a scientific theory used to explain variation in species over time due to natural selection.

It's a key fundamental principle of biology.

Your capacity to live a lengthy and fulfilling life is a product of your ancestors being subjected to it.

If you want to fear the "literal machine cogs of existence", go study quantum mechanics.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2018, 01:27:27 AM »

Evolution is a scientific fact, it isn't "intended" to make us feel anything.

Evolution is just a theory. A disproven one in fact.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2018, 12:18:31 PM »

Evolution is a scientific fact, it isn't "intended" to make us feel anything.

Evolution is just a theory. A disproven one in fact.

How has evolution been disproven?
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2018, 12:15:25 AM »

I would personally say that taking what scientists say as an absolute fact is wrong, mainly because the definition of what is scientific fact is always changing. As illustrated by Charlie in an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia , scientists are not always right.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2018, 10:39:45 AM »

I would personally say that taking what scientists say as an absolute fact is wrong, mainly because the definition of what is scientific fact is always changing. As illustrated by Charlie in an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia , scientists are not always right.
Actually it was Mac, not Charlie.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 09:18:57 AM »

We all come from sin and it doesn't matter the way it started. It's called karma in other religions, which when we die, our debt is paid off.  Words,  deeds, and actions and parents karma, account for sin
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 03:05:38 AM »

Evolution is a scientific fact, it isn't "intended" to make us feel anything.

Evolution is just a theory. A disproven one in fact.

How has evolution been disproven?

Shhh, let him stupidly close his ears and eyes to reality.
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