Which country is more socialist: China or Sweden?

[buritobr]

China and Sweden are countries which had an economic model which is between capitalism and socialism. However, they are very different. China has a large share of its output produced by state owned enterprises, planning is still important, but the social safety net is not very large. Sweden doesn't have a too big share of its output produced by state owned enterprises, but there is a large social safety net and strong unions.
Which one is more socialist?

[Dr. MB]

Sweden. China is SINO.

[America Needs R'hllor]

None, but China more so. Sweden has much more economic freedom.

[mvd10]

Sweden isn't even the most 'socialist' country in Europe if you take things other than taxation and spending into account.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Sweden. China is SINO.

Agreed. China is famous for having a large state sector (though in terms of share of total employment, it is shrinking and has fallen below that of the US, Germany, and France). However, despite that and the CCP's pretentions of running "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics," this form of state capitalism is among the most cutthroat in the world. It looks more like the industrial policy of Japan and South Korea during their growth years than anything Marx would've considered "socialist." The social safety net is small, the job market is extremely competitive, rents in top-tier cities like Shanghai are among the highest in the world, etc etc.

So although Sweden is not socialist in the traditional definition, it does have a less unequal society than China and its social democratic economy is more aligned with the intents of most left-wingers, so Sweden is the correct answer here.

[Sestak]

If you define socialism by how much industry is government-run, then China.

If you define it by the goals of people who consider themselves "socialists", Sweden.

[Goldwater]

China is more fiscally socialist, Sweden is more socially socialist.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

China is more fiscally socialist, Sweden is more socially socialist.

What do you mean "socially socialist?" Is that just a synonym for "socially liberal?"

Or are you just making fun of the saying?

[Goldwater]

China is more fiscally socialist, Sweden is more socially socialist.

What do you mean "socially socialist?" Is that just a synonym for "socially liberal?"

Or are you just making fun of the saying?

Yeah, that's it. Sometimes I speak in Atlas memes.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Sweden is well on the way to eliminating cash, so who do you think is more socialist?